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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

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    There is. It's called capital owners' interests.
     
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    What does this have to do with antitrust enforcement? You do realize I hated Obama and Clinton right? I'm not some Democratic hack. I'm a anti monopolist who hates corporate America and thinks the middle class has been screwed by both parties.

    Biden is the first president in over 50 years to actually go after corporate America in any substantial way. He's doing what JFK was promising to do in terms of reforms to the irs.
     
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    even the deep state house organ WaPo is out to get Biden

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    Biden's 2024 re-election campaign song

     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bi...nsel-robert-hur-11673565715?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    Two Presidents, Two Special Counsels
    Merrick Garland can’t escape deciding how to handle Biden’s classified document stash.
    By The Editorial Board
    Jan. 12, 2023 6:46 pm ET

    Hear that quacking sound from Washington? It’s Attorney General Merrick Garland’s latest duck. Faced with news that classified documents were recently found not only in a private office of President Biden’s but also his Delaware home, including in the garage, Mr. Garland on Thursday named another special counsel.

    “I strongly believe that the normal processes of this department can handle all investigations with integrity,” Mr. Garland said. “But under the regulations, the extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a special counsel.” He claimed this would make clear the Justice Department’s “commitment to both independence and accountability.” The new special counsel is Robert Hur, who clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist before starting a career as a federal prosecutor.

    To repeat what we said when Mr. Garland appointed Jack Smith as special counsel to investigate President Trump, including Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago document hoard, the political insulation being sought here is a matter of mere perception. Whatever Mr. Hur finds out about how classified material wound up in Mr. Biden’s garage next to his Corvette, Mr. Garland shoulders the responsibility for the investigation, including deciding how to conclude it.

    “My Corvette’s in a locked garage, OK? So it’s not like they’re sitting out on the street,” Mr. Biden said Thursday. Rest easy, America: The First Vette is safe and sound. As for the classified papers from his time as Vice President, locked or not, Mr. Biden’s garage isn’t a secure place where they’re supposed to be kept. Additional classified material, Mr. Biden also said, was recently found in his personal library. Still, he argued: “People know, I take classified documents and classified material seriously.”

    Apparently not as seriously as the feds usually do. Last year a former civilian employee of the Pentagon was sentenced to three months in prison for taking classified documents to her hotel room, as well as keeping handwritten notes of meetings that included classified details. That information was categorized as Confidential and Secret. To compare, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump each reportedly held on to documents that were rated as more sensitive than Top Secret.

    Prosecutions for mishandling the nation’s secrets aren’t rare, though many of them involve reams of materials or high risk of exposure. Former CIA Director John Deutch was set to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information on a computer at his home. President Clinton pardoned him first.

    Although Mr. Trump was inexplicably mulish about handing over his files, on current evidence there’s no good case for putting a President in prison—much less making two Presidents into cellmates—for improperly retaining materials from recent public office. When Mr. Trump was out on a limb by himself, this point was less obvious to some of our media competitors.

    Now that Mr. Biden faces a similar inquiry, perhaps they see how ridiculous it is to have the Justice Department investigating both the current and former President who are running against each other for the same office in 2024. Rather than pass the buck to special counsels, Mr. Garland would be wiser to help the country by seeking a better way out.

    The Justice Department can clarify the facts, and explain whether each President handled documents recklessly in ways that could have harmed national security. Barring some explosive revelation, however, Mr. Garland can then close both cases, giving voters their say next year when Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden each expect to be on the ballot.

    Appeared in the January 13, 2023, print edition as 'Two Presidents, Two Special Counsels'.

     
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    Mr biden didn't *lie* to the feds on a affidavit under oath about not having such documents. It's so effin insane how you people keep beating around this point.

    You can't just glance over the most important detail of the case.
     
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    Also trump is running in 2024 so ultimately the American people will judge his case on the merits. If he wins the 2024 election then he can pardon himself and he won't ever see jail. If the Doj even charges him today there's not a single judge in this country that will sentence him before election day.

    Trump was the most powerful person in the gop on the day of the marlargo raid. When he gets indicted he'll automatically be the gop nominee and the American people will ultimately decide his guilt.
     
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    I don't watch TV.
     
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    Trumps issue isn't that he had the documents. It was the willful retention of the documents. He was asked for them several times. He was issued a subpoena for them. He still didn't return them all. Had he returned the documents there would have been absolutely no issue.
     
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    I feel they should do search warrants giving the importance of securing these documents and the fact they were left around for years in multiple locations

    Let's not forget the White House cannot give us assurances that everything has been rounded up or not and having a thorough search is warranted - based on the situation
     
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    You need probable cause for a search warrant. No judge will issue a warrant without cause to the POTUS house. The reason why they got a warrant on trump was they had multiple folks on records reporting on him and with photo evidence.

    Garland literally nominated a tough on crime TRUMP NOMINATED republican as special counsel. If anyone here thinks for a fkin second that trump would've nominated a Democrat to overlook him than youre smoking Crack.

    It's always funny how dems always have to be the moral ones. Bidens team easily could've crushed this and shredded the paper. They owned up to it and nominated a republican special council and you still have low iq Maga crying fraud.
     
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    Having classified documents laying around is inextricably inexcusable- It's not OK

    I have yet to have any of you pro Biden folks explain why did it take from discovery on nov2 till admission in mid January- if everything is OK then why the lack of transparency? I await a response
     
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    Again why the delay ? Can't answer that apparently
     
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    Could probable cause be "we have no idea if there is more batches" per White House and considering multiple batches of classified information was found that there is a need for a search confirmation- I think I would feel better if a search can be done and congressional oversight made
     
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    They notified the DOJ the *SAME DAY* they found the documents and handed them over right away.....the doj is a INDEPENDENT part of the white house. There was transparency LEGALLY that had to be made.

    Alerting the media isn't anywhere in the law. Telling the DOJ and national archives IS which is what they did. Keep trying

    The white house lawyers already stated they are done with the search. I don't know where you get the "we have no idea if they are more" bs.



    This is the REALITY

     
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    I'm not talking about the media - I'm actually referring to the American people - We deserve to know above all I would imagine ...
    Also let's get transparency on the open we need to know why White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dodged a question asking if visitor logs for President Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home will be released after classified documents were found in a garage at the residence.
     
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    Well, the shopping analogy is close. Biden left the store, put the merchandise in his car, moved it into another car, then his buddy went back to the store and returned it.
     
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    You people on the right don't get it or you do but act stupid. It doesn't matter as long as you return the goods before the store asks for it. The government hates lying to it more than anything else. This is everything related to government. I own a medical device company that primarily deals with Medicare. You get caught lying on the record with Medicare about patient care that's your license. If you commit fraud with Medicare and you return the payment to Medicare before they audit you'll *never* get in trouble if you man up. You lie to the government and then try to cover your tracks is when they'll come eff you.

    No matter how much you want to spin it they aren't even close. Trump commit a felony when he attempt to cover up the documents. Not for possession of the documents.
     
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