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[2022 NBA Draft/1-3] Jabari Smith Jr., F, Auburn

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 23, 2022.

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Do you like the selection of Jabari Smith?

Poll closed Jun 23, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think we'll be alright. Defense and 3pters make it possible for any player to remain on the floor, and it buys them time to develop their game since they can be super role players in the meantime.
     
  2. Spooner

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    Right but we have to see the shooting translate and 40 games in it hasn’t the way we had hoped. I think gaining strength will help not only his defense but shooting as well. Everything about what makes Jabari a great role player is still hypothetical and that is a little scary but I agree he’ll figure it out over time (hopefully.) Nothing is ever guaranteed though. And every year that goes by is one less year on his rookie deal.
    We still haven’t seen a true breakout game from Jabari but I think that’s just as much an indictment on Silas than anything else.
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    Still LOL'ing about the notion of a Smith-Holmgren-Banchero "Big 3" in the 22 draft.

    It's like the Lakers Big 3 of Lebron (great) - Davis (injured) - Russ (lol).

    https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-jan-11-2023-edition

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    6. Jabari Smith, Jr., Houston Rockets

    Season stats: 11.8 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.9 apg
    Since last Ladder: 8.7 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 1.3 apg
    Last Ladder: 5
    Draft pick: No. 3 overall

    A lot of catch-and-shoot limits his athletic skills mostly to defense.​

    Sad trombone for us.
     
  4. Sooty

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    Lol yeah sad trombone half way through the season.

    I bet fans of the Kings were beaming when Tyreke won rookie of the year or Philly when MCW was rated well.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Sure sure the Paolo as MCW comparison chicken is likely to really come home to roost.

    Speaking of the 2013 draft, interesting to note that the 3rd overall selection was Otto Porter Jr, a 6-8 defensively sound wing who's a decent, if not fearsome, spot up 3 point shooter but who otherwise lacks in on-ball skills like dribbling and passing....
     
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    We have to get him looks other than wing 3s .. and no baseline shots unless it’s a corner 3

    but his midrange would help greatly except we playing Sengun in high/mid post.. which pushes him to those other areas.

    Might need stagger them but then you losing defense …
     
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  8. xaos

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    You're the only one who is sad here... or depressed... whatever
     
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  9. Icehouse

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    Is that his first NBA dunk on someone?
     
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  10. Arnel

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    homeless version of Rashard Lewis? You may want to look up Rashard’s first year stats before making idiotic comments ;)
     
  11. daywalker02

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    So I am accounting for his 7 minutes per game lmao or what?

    You blame me for rookies not being used during his era?

    Check his per 36 minutes stats, tough guy!

    His Sonics didn't make the playoffs but it was close and they were a 0.50 team and didn't play rookies.

    If you watch the horrendous Rockets play, you know why certain teams don't play rookies that much, it is a different time. (Kobe played spare minutes his rookie year)

    Do you even know what context and nuance is when you shed your homer shades?
     
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  12. YaoMac09

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    Please can this dude just shoot 30% from 3?
     
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  13. Arnel

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    It shows that you calling him a “homeless Rashard Lewis” is idiotic and not giving the 19 year old kid any hope at all.

    They were both 19 as rookies. If you take Rashards 7 minutes a game and multiply it by 4 it gives you the same minutes as Jabari is playing now:

    -Jabari is shooting better in every category, some much better
    -Rashard is averaging less points
    - Rashard is averaging almost 4 times as many turnovers :D
    Rashard is averaging more fouls
    Rashard is averaging even less assists :eek:
    Rashard is averaging less blocks
    Rashard is averaging less rebounds
    Rashard is averaging more steals (wow, one thing he did better first year at same age ;))

    So yea, I wish he played more consistent also obviously, but let’s not get ahead of our selves and call him a “homeless Rashard Lewis” while the kid is 19. Common now. That’s some hater sh*t. If he’s still playing like this in a few years then feel free. Not a homer, but realistic. I still don’t think there were better options at number 3 overall. We had no chance at Paolo so pointless to compare them.
     
  14. Sengun

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    I laugh when I remember the fact that this guy was featured in mock drafts by the press as the first pick in front of Banchero for months.
     
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  15. SamFisher

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    Trying to match Kenyon Martin Jr in a game of H-O-R-S-E.



    That's an H
     
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    Jabari numbers will improve shortly after the Rockets offload Gordon… hopefully it lowers the number of wing 3s he takes ..He’s always short on the wings in the NBA - I almost want to see him pumpfake take 1-2 dribbles and pull up from midrange

    Same with Green.. both of them shoot low 30s from wings yet they take 4-6 of those 3s a game

    Murray with Sac has same problem with wing 3s but his guards put him in position to shoot 3-5 corner 3s a game
     

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    There were certain posters here who claimed that early on in the season , the Rockets were misusing Jabari by not letting him take above-the-break 3's.

    I don't think there's anything we've tried that has had a ton of success in terms of 3 point shots Catch & shoot, off the dribble, on the run. Maybe on the run is better because his shooting motion is not very quick - (again how the **** professional NBA scouts missed this and had him as a #1 caliber talent based on his shooting is beyond me :confused: )

    I agree with you we need to go back to square 1 with this guy and treat him like a bad 3 point shooter (PJ Tucker style) and see if he can become effective from teh corner, maybe it builds up his confidence and he gets untracked.
     
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    They try and post him on baseline - look how he’s shot from there in college .. he needs catch and shoot situations around FT line .. but that’s now where we play Sengun

    Also he’s the 5th option now behind KPJ Green Gordon Sengun..it’s just not many touches for him to gain a rhythm outside of grabbing a rebound and pushing it himself.

    He seems to be a more touches better he shoots player… his number will continue to look crazy if he gets 6-8 shots a game and 3-4 of them are wing 3s every 5-8 minutes
     
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  20. SamFisher

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    I actually think it's the opposite? earlier in the season he was shooting 10-15 times a game and it was as bad or worse.

    I think your point about Sengun is well taken - I think it's fine to demote Smith to the second unit so he can work without a guy in the same spot, but it seems like the Rockets seem to make who sits and starts into such a BIG THING because of Head Honcho's fragile ego that moving anybody up or down in the rotation apparently requires 10000 minutes played and 35 committee and subcommittee meetings.
     
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