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Next Texans Head Coach (and GM)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. Qan

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    Not worth it.
     
  2. Fantasma Negro

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    Nick sounded like he's feeling the flames, and he should be. The failures of the last two seasons are his fault. This team has had bad coaching and mediocre talent and that's fully on Nick. Cal never should've trusted him 100%, that being said Nick has done some good things too. We have some good young talent, draft capital and cap space so the next coach coming in will be in a better position than Culley or Lovie
     
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    Just like the Rockets this falls on the GM … no coach is winning with Mills or Driskel.

    Look how many games Texans were in and Mills decided to gift the game to other team.

    Our defense actually wasn’t bad… If I’m correct we lost 2 games where the other teams offense didn’t score
     
  4. Deuce Rings

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    Once you were forced to trade Deshaun Watson, the franchise was in a multi-year rebuilding situation (at least!), and that’s ignoring some of the terrible transactions Bill O’Brien made on his way out the door as GM/coach. The new GM maximized return for Watson (3 1sts) and ensured the team’s own picks would be high by riding giving Davis Mills an extended opportunity. We should also consider the new GM is not exactly running a franchise that looks attractive to free agents with perhaps the worst reputation in football if not all of major professional sports. So for me it’s difficult to criticize the GM that inherited a dumpster fire. So far I’d say he’s done the most he can with very little to work with, and judgement will be reserved for the results of the QB he drafts and how those other high picks turn out
     
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  5. Nick

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    Its on him for hiring Culley (only to plan on firing him)... and then having to hire Lovie due to the ****-storm he created by hiring minority coaches nobody was seeking out as a HC with no plans of keeping them long term (and then they do just that again by firing Lovie... which I agree with, but the optics are what they are).

    Of course he inherited a bad situation... but what he's done so far is pretty much standard/expected. They needed to avoid further scrutiny after the Watson debacle (which was first instigated because they hired Caserio) and unfortunately his inexperience or lack of foresight has brought them even more scrutiny that makes this a less than attractive job opportunity.
     
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    Nah….Rockets situation is night and day.

    Stone is getting the talent, but the coach is not developing cohesion with that talent and thats on the coach (who will be gone soon).

    In the Texans case, this is 100% on the GM because he fully hired two coaches only to be place holders and not long term guys.

    Tho Rockets and Texans are in the same boat in terms of being bottom feeders, the Rockets have talent and a bright future….they just need better player development aka COACHING.

    Stone is LIGHT YEARS better than Caserio because Stone has a plan…Caserio has zero plan and just wings it like his answers at press conferences.
     
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    We have potential talent (Rockets) we have a lot of limited players - We don’t have any shooters and the 1 we hired shot is semi broken (22%) from 3 last 13 games

    KPJ is Mills
    Jalen is Pierce
    Jabari is Stingley
    Sengun is Pitre

    Making shots is on players , drawing up plays to get the open shot is on the coach … the Rockets shoot 30% on wide open shots .. that’s not on coaching

    We rank top 4 in quality shots (that’s coaching)

    They are the top offensive rebounding team in the NBA, getting the board on 33.9 percent of their misses. And they are the most unreliable shooting team, making a league-worst 44.3 percent of their shots, just 34 percent of their catch-and-shoot 3s.

    The Rockets already take the eighth-most shots within five feet, the fifth most free throws. They are 16th in paint scoring, despite so rarely running fast breaks.

    Silas can’t make shots for them, just like Pep can’t complete passes for Mills
     
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    #2829 Rockets34Legend, Jan 10, 2023
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    Then there is some BoB bullshit:

     
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    Yeah….KPJ can go fasho.

    If they don't get Wemby, they need to take the best PG available and move the “Head Honcho” to the 6th man role and if he pulls some stunt, trade his azz.
     
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    I like Gannon staff better
     
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    It was all an act. Yesterday was just another performance to placate and mislead the Texans fans once again. Don't fall for his "mea culpa" bulls**t. Or have you forgotten about his excited presser when Culley was hired?
     
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    https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-nfl-head-coach-openings-which-jobs-are-most-enticing-in-2023

    1. Carolina Panthers
    2. Arizona Cardinals
    3. Indianapolis Colts
    4. Denver Broncos
    5. Houston Texans
    2022 record: 3-13-1
    Would you take a job where the previous two head coaches were fired after one season each? Someone will, in part because the Texans have a boatload of draft picks to boost their rebuild. Lovie Smith's final act -- beating the Indianapolis Colts -- cost Houston the first overall pick in 2023, but some of that draft capital could go into a trade to acquire that top spot and a shot at a quarterback. There are some exciting young players on the roster (cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. and running back Dameon Pierce are two), but the Texans have many needs, particularly to revamp a terrible offense.

    Houston's biggest hurdle in the hiring process, though, might be convincing quality candidates that Cal McNair has the patience to see a rebuild through. Since he took over the team following the death of his father, former owner Bob McNair, in 2018, he has fired one general manager (Brian Gaine) and two head coaches (Smith and David Culley) after one season each. He gave Bill O'Brien too much personnel power, and then when O'Brien made the kinds of mistakes one might have predicted for someone inexperienced at that part of the job, McNair fired him. He gave power to Jack Easterby, the Patriots' former team chaplain, who has since left. In light of the recent rate of turnover, top candidates will likely have to be sold by GM Nick Caserio on the potential to build something from scratch -- and probably must be offered a long contract.
     
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  19. Deuce Rings

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    And because Sean Payton has the cache to do better and not even take a call from a franchise like The Texans. Of course, that “cache” came with Drew Brees manning the controls which always makes me suspicious (was it the coach? Was it the QB? Or was it both?)
     
  20. Major

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    It's this type of thinking that gets the Texans in trouble. Don't have talent, so don't get a coach. Don't have a coach, so don't get talent.

    If (and that's a big IF) you think he's the coach for the next decade, losing a random 2nd round pick this year or whatnot is inconsequential for the value he'd bring.

    Edit: Payton would likely never take the job, or even the interview, but that's very different from the Texans not thinking its worth it.
     

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