[Houston Crime] foiled robbery at S. Gessner taqueria

None of what you typed before showed any ounce of understanding the difference.

 

Shooting the guy while he was leaving MIGHT be justified. Shooting the guy while he was on the ground near the fake gun MIGHT be justified. Picking up the gun then shooting him in the head was absolutely not justified and anyone who believes it was has no moral compass.

 

Oh but it did. Just read it again. Also, nobody should have to prove their knowledge of 7th grade vocabulary to you. Try to stay on topic mr. smart guy.

 

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Are those tacos good?

 

Life ain’t fair
When you try to rob people and get killed
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Lol the fact that you said someone doesn't "deserve" empathy says exactly that you don't understand the difference between empathy and sympathy. The nature of empathy means that any sentient being even Hitler "deserves" empathy.

 

Dude. Do I need to get the puppets out?

 

Haha he was directing traffic with his gat

 

Houston was safer when mad max was on the rockets

 

Per Andy Khan from Crimestopers:
•The now deceased robber was on parole for Aggravated Robbery with a Deadly Weapon (GUN)
•He was originally charged with Capital Murder but a Jury found him guilty of Aggravated Robbery
•He was sentenced to 15 years in prison in 2015
•His colleagues were not so fortunate: Life without Parole and 40 years for the other
•While on Parole for Aggravated Robbery DW he was charged with Assault and was granted a PR Bond December 17th, 2022
• Giving an offender a PR Bond for a violent offense albeit while on parole for a violent offense defies logic
•He is no longer on parole


These PR bonds are crazy in the H

 

They need to start deporting violent criminals to remote countries far from America

 

Government coffers are becoming more and more broke AF.

 

Frankly, he probably did the area a favor, but prior unknown circumstances doesn't justify vigilante murders.

Jurors acquit that neighbor who shot a bunch of non-violent robbers in the back. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't charge him at all...

 

I'm still torn on this because while you or many discussing this here in the abstract can take the hit of a lost wallet, many of the folks in that mugger's area probably can't without some temporary hardship. Just letting that guy go in a neighborhood where cops avoid can create viscious cycles.

We didn't know that guy was an aggravated robber/murderer, but it could have escalated if one of the victims refused to part with their cash. Maybe they were on their way to the bank or to make a payment. It's also a grey area in gun control because right up to the last half minute, it was an example where people living "where the cracks fall through" can legally defend themselves and feel more agency to what appears to be a detoriating situation.

The initial premise or emotional grab isn't cut and dried. For folks who wonder about the best outcome, "best" and "outcome" are hella subjective with our own preconceived biases.

I take this mess as a Rorschach of where each of us wants to be as a society and also where we already think we are.

Shiiieeeetttt @Ziggy. I went all Aaron Sorkin agin.

 

Did the vigilante pull his crimestoppers report in between the robber entering the taqueria and him unloading a clip in his lifeless body??

The robber could be a murderer on parole, or he could have been a messed up 15 year old who did it as a dare or had just been kicked out of his house by his abusive dad. You just never know and the argument is about taking a life vs having training to disarm without choosing to deliver execution shots to the brain. If a shot to disarm turns out to be deadly then that’s one thing a vigilante might live with but I for one cannot see the humanity in someone who would disregard someone’s life the way the vigilante did here.

 

Houston does have better tacos than any city in California
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I know at Tmac fans pretend they know but you know they don’t

 

From what my friend tells me is they are very good.

 

My point was the deceased should not have been prowling the streets. Did the judge think the aggravated parolee was being productive after his most recent violent arrest so they let him out for free? If he was working, he could've made bond. Let him out for free and things like this happen. This isn't an outlier in Houston TX.

I haven't commented on the vigilante. I just saw the full video for the first time yesterday.

 

A situation like this always falls upon the problem of saying that yes a crime was committed by the first party but that doesn't mean a crime can't be commmited in response by the second party. The idea of "F^(% Around and Find out" is that with any crime that any response to it is justified. That isn't actually a legal principle or in this society really a moral principle. For example if someone throws a punch at me I can't pull a gun and shoot them. I can't subdue him and then torture him.

A better example that we see with this is where LEO kill someone in custody. The general defense was that the person in custody had committed a crime and/or also had a history of criminal behavior. As Derek Chauvin found out that excuse doesn't hold with jurors and legally never was a valid excuse.

In this case I don't think there would be much controversy or legal questions if the shooter had just shot the robber initially and then called LE. It's that once the robber is down and disarmed he proceeds to shoot him again is the problem. At that point the robber no longer represents a threat and is helpless. At that point the shooter is basically executing him.

 

Of course not. He was a danger to himself and everyone around him. Shouldn’t have been out.

My point was that the vigilante didn’t know that so your post insinuating a justified kill isn’t relevant if you don’t know the persons background and just take it upon yourself to play god and end his life knowingly. Take for example the ST6 guy shooting Bin Laden again for a kill shot. He was equip with the training and the preparation to know when and how to deliver a kill shot. He knew the likelihood of a suicide vest Bin Laden could trigger.

A Vigilantes on the streets like this guy or Kyle Rittenhouse are dangerous because they are not trained, don’t know their targets before they encounter them, and not in a position to be making those kind of calls when acting as law enforcement in the absence of law enforcement.

I for one have a pet peeve with the justified kill posts online we always see from folks on the right too. We are dehumanizing our society daily doing this crap, and we know you were doing it so don’t start with the claimed ignorance bs you always do please.