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KPJ & or Green going out like Francis?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Jan 9, 2023.

  1. YaoMac09

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    No it’s because you don’t acknowledge your talking point is completely idiotic yet you’re calling other people idiots.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    You.comparwd Jalen Green and Francis comp to Darko and Yao.

    And you haven't expressed any explanation of why just stating my points are dumb.


    Ask yourself how many games a 20 year old Francis would lead a NBA team with a roster full of other 19 and 20 year olds.

    Francis and Mobley were the young projects on the Rockets at age like 22 and 25.
     
  3. Reeko

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    don’t forget all the “KPJ at 20 is further along than Harden at 20” or “KPJ at 20 is putting up way more points and assists than Harden at the same age” posts we used to see on here

    now it’s Jalen Green at age X is putting up better stats than Lavine or Beal at the same age…yet it’s no guarantee Green will surpass the 27, 5, and 5 on 51/42/85 splits that Lavine put up in his best season

    right now he is tracking far below someone like Anthony Edwards when it comes to scoring
     
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  4. YaoMac09

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    Relax dude, you’re going to give yourself a heart attack. I already told you why your point was silly. You’re choosing to ignore it. Just because Jalen is playing in the NBA at a young age doesn’t automatically mean he is going to be better than someone who entered the league later. Otherwise you might as well compare him to MJ or any of the other stars that didn’t enter the league until their 20s. Why stop at Francis?

    “What was Yao doing when he was Darko’s age? Not even playing in the NBA nor dominating the CBA! Scrub.”
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    What? Ant was like 22 ppg on 54% ts his first half of his sophomore year. How is that far below Green especially given that Ant at least have competent developed players around him(DLo, Towns, Rudy etc)
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    You explained my point is silly by using a horrible analogy this you really didn't defend your point.

    So find a better analogy.
     
  7. YaoMac09

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    LOL. Good luck with life.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    You to. Is your go to when you run out of arguments is to just insult people's personal lives?

    Kinda odd.

    You do you.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    What's funny is if you look at their age 20 stats, they are nearly exactly the same in both output and efficiency but get there in slightly different ways :

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-points-per-game-average-by-a-20-year-old-in-the-nba#:~:text=LeBron James has put up,player, with 29.3 per game.

    Jalen Green age 20: 68 games 21.3 ppg, 3.3 apg 17.1 fga, 5fta per game.

    Anthony Edwards age 20: 72 games 21.3 ppg 3.8 apg, 17.3 fga, 4 fta per game.

    The most surprising thing is Green having more ft attempts per game given that Ant is a much bigger body who can generate more contact I would assume.
     
  10. YaoMac09

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    “What was Michael Jordan doing at 19? Not even in the league. WHAT A SCRUB! Jalen was already playing the in the NBA when Jordan couldn’t get drafted! You’re all idiots.”

    You ^
     
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  11. fchowd0311

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    So now I'm claiming Green is going to be better than MJ?

    You ain't good at these comparison things are ya?
     
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    Oh Lordy.

    Thank you for providing me with my morning entertainment. It’s been hard being a Rockets fan as of late.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Who on our current team can run the break?
    That is so wild

    Rocket River
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    It's amazing how much of a conception fit you experience when someone just merely provides context to a situation.

    Never did I say just because Green came in young automatically makes him a better player.

    The difference in their output and efficiency is close enough to where ya age AND the roster around is enough to offset the difference.

    How well do you think a 22 year old Francis would operate in just KPJ's shoes leading around a team that has just 19-22 year olds as rotation players?
     
  15. Rocket River

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    I felt that Trai is a "Get able " star
    but
    I dunno about his attitude. . .he seems to have brushed alot of people on his team the wrong way

    Rocket River
     
  16. Reeko

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    Anthony Edwards pre-ASB last year - 22, 5 and 4 on 44/36/78 splits and 55% TS

    if Jalen had those shooting percentages right now and even that efficiency, we’d all be celebrating

    then he goes into the playoffs and puts up 25, 4, and 3 on 46/40/82 splits and 60% TS against the Grizzlies 6th ranked defense

    Jalen Green so far - 21, 4, and 4 on 41/32/79 splits and 53% TS with his efficiency and scoring numbers getting worse by the day
     
  17. kubli9

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    I had to "show ignored content" to see what the hell was going on here. This poster is just here to troll, you shouldn't feed them.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    I mean I literally posted their production at age 20 and they are exactly the same almost.

    So Ant played a lot better his second half of his sophomore year l? Gee it's as if young players have a higher chance of mid season development because of how few games they've played in the NBA.

    So how about we ease off on the assumptions until after the second season for Green. He has his second half coming up. Green also has his worst stretch 2 week stretch in his rookie year before he went on that 2 and a half month tear.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    hmm seems like this is a person I don't recall who merely disagree with me and assumed I'm a troll because what? You disagree with me?
     
  20. Joe Rocket

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    This is why you need a real coach. A bunch of us predicted this but you had the "Its not Silas's fault" crowd lol
     

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