[Houston Crime] foiled robbery at S. Gessner taqueria

At first I was thinking of the entrance to Strake off of Bellaire and thought that is a heck of a throw across the shopping center parking lot. Then remembered that it is much closer from Gessner.

That is an interesting area because going back East on Bellaire brings one closer to a Latin America vibe.
Going West on Bellaire brings one to China Town.


Years ago I used to think that St Agnes and/or Strake would eventually move out of that area.

Now it appears that they are accepting how things are.

 

yah…..my son goes to Strake, and although that area is my “hood” from back in the day (and I LOVE Asian food), the area can be a bit rough. Gotta say though…..the campus is an oasis with plenty of security. It’s where he wanted to go, and he certainly earned it, so we’re pleased. Things like this shooting though certainly give me pause when he asks if he can stay late and go get boba tea with his debate friends.

 

Has it been mentioned that the robber didn’t even possess a real gun? Does that influence anyone’s perception of the act?

I have no problem with the initial shooting. Regardless of if the guy had a real gun or not. That said - sure looks to me like the patron just really wanted to use his gun in a lethal scenario and was excited to get his chance.

 

Are all people supposed to know what real guns look like? I've been robbed with a gun pointed at my face directly and at the time I would not have had no idea whether it was real or not (it was). From a distance there is no way to know for certain, people can even paint real guns to make them look like trainers. It's always easy to be analyzing from a distance but it feels much different in the middle of the situation.

How about this. You don't wanna get shot, don't go trying to rob. It's fairly simple, this is on the robber, not the hero. How would you all feel if your sister/mother/wife/daughter/etc. were the ones being threatened by a robber?

I would never want to shoot a single person or animal but I understand the necessity of it in a country filled with situations like Uvalde. I mean, come on, It's like this country is losing its mind over things that should be simple to make decisions on; Robber threatens - robber shot, case open and closed, no need to prosecute the person who risked his life to defends those of others.

 

Scenario A: Customer shoots and kills gunman and everybody (else) lives happily ever after.
Scenario B: Nobody gets killed, including the gunman, and the gunman escapes stealing peoples stuff (and he's later arrested)
Scenario C: Customer misses and an all-out gun fight ensues, and multiple people get hurt.

Under Scenario A, I don't have a problem with the customer's actions. If you let armed citizens go vigilante, which is what we do now, this kind of stuff is predictable. ...but so is Scenario C.

 

hmm close enough we claiming it

South West Alief Texas baby!

 

Scenario D: Robber escapes, proceeds to commit many other robberies, maybe some murders along the way. Multiple people get hurt as well just not glorified by the media.

There are many scenarios that can play out if you start branching out. The only one that matters is what actually happened, scenario A. In this case, no one should be feeling sorry for the criminal (not just a gunman) or prosecuting the one who stopped him from hurting others that day or in the future (as criminals just don't stop robbing and stealing of all of the sudden unless something forces them to stop).

 

Nothing is going to stop robbers from robbing. They always have and always will. You are chasing dreams if somehow you think that putting more guns on the street will suddenly get to some inflection point where suddenly robbers stop and think to themselves about the risk/reward analysis.

Clue phone: Most criminals just aren't that smart, hence their chosen profession. So asking them to use logic is a losing game.

Adding more guns doesn't equate to less crime.
Adding more guns does equate to more death (intentional or otherwise)

To be clear, I don't feel sorry for this guy nor do I think the citizen should be charged. Everybody else in there should feel lucky.

 

DON'T SHOOT PEOPLE IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WHEN THEY'RE ON THE GROUND.

...and I'm done.

 

I didn't say add more guns. I know plenty of people that shouldn't carry. That being said, if you choose to carry you are more likely to be a deterrent. Why do you think criminals and mass shooters go for weak targets (schools, churches, large crowds busy partying, etc.)? Because they are less likely to be places that they'll get shot at. Still, you take a risk every time you rob, and I for one am not sad this guy was shot.

I feel this discussion is deviating from its intended purpose. The man who shot the robber should be hailed as a hero, not prosecuted. That's my simple point, not trying to engage in D&D material at this point regarding gun control, hypothetical situations, etc. I just don't think he deserves to be charged for doing society a service and getting rid of one more criminal that will not be threatening lives in the future or cost taxpayers money in jail if ever caught.

 

You threaten people with guns (fake or real), you take the risk that someone may not take that kindly.

 

No. Just no.

 

We'll agree to disagree, I feel I already added too much D&D to this thread as is.

 

I haven’t see the whole video but from what you’re describing I would agree. The general rule is the once the immediate threat is stopped you cannot continue to use force.

I recall there was a situation in Oklahoma a few years ago where a storekeeper shot a robber kn the head. The proceeded to reload and shot the robber several more times. The storekeeper was convicted.

 

Strake Jesuit is buying a lot of the land over and around them. They have also invested a great amount of money into their campus and over the last decade it has become probably the best in Houston.

As for the crime around it, that doesn’t really seem to impact the school much thus far and it is very possible that area becomes nicer in the future.

The ability of Strake to raise money is amazing.

 

30+ years ago we had a proper soccer rivalry against yall and Awty, and others.

 

Anyone want to bet that the shooter is retired military and/or that he works as a mechanic or for the city?

 

retired military or semi-retired hitman

but that wasn't his first kill

 

I haven't watched the actual shooting yet. But from everything I've heard about it I suspect you're right.