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Fire Silas 2.0

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatboyPhuong, Oct 21, 2022.

  1. harold bingo

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    I don't think I would trade them all for Shai but if I had to bet if any of them were ever as good as Shai is now I would definitely bet no.
     
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    Why? Was Shai a higher level prospect than someone like Green?
     
  3. Imanimal

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    Disagree 100%.
     
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    although I disagree I think this is a fair argument.

    the reason I disagree is because I think we've seen him prioritize winning over player development, and in those moments he's had questionable/bad decisions around play calling and substitutions. we've seen this team often have the obviously incorrect strategy against certain opponents (over helping on drives against great shooting teams, going away from sengun when he has a favorable matchup, etc, etc..). he's also been slow to recognize what works and what doesn't and adjust, like staggering KPJ and Jalen's minutes, last year he held on to the 2 center lineup entirely too long.

    I think we've seen that he may not be a great coach even if given a talented roster because of some of these coaching decisions. I'm not willing to wait another year, in fact I'm a little upset we may have wasted 2 years of Jalen's development.

    granted I agree the reason for sending wall home was to tank and trotting out an even younger/less experienced roster this year is again to tank. but there is tanking and there is not even looking prepared for a game. the spurs and thunder for example lose a lot of games but their coaches put them in position to be as competitive as they can be given their roster. i haven't seen Silas add any value from the sidelines and because of that I'm willing to give someone else a chance.
     
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    They could. But I know Shai already reached Shais level at 24. It would be like getting Harden in 2012
     
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    I just see a higher ceiling for Green when I see those two players especially at the same age. People are taking for granted how effortlessly Green beats perimeter defenses even without the tightest of handles. Right now it isn't translating into consistent makes and playmaking but it eventually will.
     
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    Where are the ****ing Houstonians cant you like hold some signs during game, chant anything i dont know? In countries we have real local fans they would be having 40 hooligans in Stones office by now. Its ****ing pathetic, NBA is supposed to be top 30 creme de la creme of basketball world
     
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    I paid half of minimal monthly salary in my country to buy league pass just for this team to purposely loose and not take any action towards winning this is so ****ing pathetic i cant wrap my head around it.
     
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    If Silas was 100% responsible for the baffling rotations I agree, Silas needs to go. I don’t know, but I suspect Stone has input to the rotations and distribution of minutes on the roster. Playing Mathews and Nix rather than prioritizing Josh Christopher is one of those baffling decisions. We’ve seen Silas play these developmental rotations for too long and the front office would’ve told him to stop doing that if Silas was acting alone. The fact that it continues makes me believe that this is a jointly run development plan from both Stone and Silas. We’ll find out the answer based on whether Fertitta fires Silas.
     
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    Got this exclusive footage of Rockets practice today. Silas says they need to work on defense. @J.R.

     
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  12. harold bingo

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    No I don't think so? What's that got to do with it? It's not about the level of prospect, it's about how good Shai is right now. The guy is a superstar, 31/5/6 on 61% TS, hitting clutch shots all over the place, getting to the line 10 times per game. Green could be good, he could be great, he could be star, it's not like I'm ruling it out. He could even be a superstar slightly below what Shai is. All I'm saying is I think the chance of any of our guys hitting that level is lower than 50%.
     
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    Silas is suppose to be a offense expertise in the NBA but our offense look embarrassing…watch this video

     
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    Just an FYI, this is what a real coach does:

     
  15. Imanimal

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    Imagine if this were the Cowboys and they had the worst record in the NFL for three straight seasons.
     
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    it's sad every game we have to read an opposing player say that we need better coaching. it's almost like the basketball community recognizes that we have talent being wasted.
     
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    https://theathletic.com/4069739/2023/01/11/stephen-silas-rockets-coach-mailbag/

    The sense I get is there’s no rush to cut ties with Silas at this juncture. He’s always been backed by management, from winning them over in the interview process to giving him full autonomy in constructing his supporting staff. There’s a lot of love for him in the building, especially following the unfortunate passing of his father, Paul Silas.

    But to say they front office isn’t frustrated would be a lie. If you wanted a game that encapsulated the 2022-23 Rockets experience, Sunday night’s loss to the Timberwolves had everything. They build a big lead off the joys of youth and watched it crumble with sloppy execution and mistakes, with everyone scratching their heads afterward when asked what just happened. Watching them play, it looks like nobody is on the same page and there’s real confusion on the floor. Players look devoid of confidence at times. There’s no real order of operations; figuring out the flow of offense is essentially a crapshoot. They’re dead last in turnovers. Teams don’t respect them defensively. More than one opposing player has referenced the Rockets as a “get-right” game.

    That is all on Silas. Coaching is about setting your guys up for success, but it’s about the intangibles as well. Confidence. Trust. Security. Three critically important variables in young players that seem to be lacking right now.

    Zooming out, Houston’s brass always looked at this rebuild as a three-year plan, not some drawn-out saga that lasts forever. This is the last season that being bad fully benefits them, thanks to the Chris Paul–Russell Westbrook trade a few years ago. (The Thunder received the Rockets’ first-round picks in 2024 and 2026, both top-4 protected, and gained the right to swap picks in 2025). Houston allowed Silas to make the bed he wanted, but that also comes with accountability if things go south.

    If I’m a betting man, my money is on Silas finishing the season out. But (important caveat!) this is assuming this losing streak doesn’t get deep into double digits. Prior to this new year, the most consecutive games Houston had lost was six. They’ve now dropped seven in a row and looking at their upcoming schedule, the only game they might be favored in is a home fixture with Charlotte on Jan. 18. With two games against the Kings and an upcoming Lakers/Clippers swing, the losing streak could very well reach 11.

    If we’re talking about a 13, 14-game losing streak, I’m not sure if Silas could survive that. Not even Jon Snow could come back from that.
     
  18. Hank McDowell

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    That Chris Paul Russell Westbrook trade is going to really hurt in a couple years...
     
  19. Mr Woods

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    I am now rooting for another 20 game losing streak.

    Also, this front office man. We’ve lost 12 of the last 13. You’re telling me that one fluke win in Chicago is the reason he’s still here, since it’s not a “double digit” losing streak? What are we doing here?
     
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