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Did Jalen Green just become a chucker?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ShiniKashi, Jan 4, 2023.

  1. wekko368

    wekko368 Member

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    I'm comparing Giddey to Jalen Green. I'm not comparing them to previous versions of themselves.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    I'm glad that the people dismissing Green use fg% to make points. It bodes well for Green that those are the type of people who are his detractors.
     
  3. maypk

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    He's not. But he's definitely more efficient than the chucker.
     
  4. wekko368

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    Then say that. Stop saying he's a year older when he's 5 months older.

    It's pretty telling that you consider truthfulness/accuracy to be "pathetic".
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Yes we are comparing their scoring efficiency. Green is a more efficient scorer on much higher volume. Now apply that matter between your ears and your high school level math education and figure out how that is the case. Try to think had. Start with understanding the concept of "efficiency" (input/output)
     
  6. apollo33

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    Giddey is playing most of the time as point guard, I would expect him to have more assists

    Green is scoring 22 PPG on 53 TS
    Giddey is scoring 15 PPG on 52 TS

    Both pretty mediocre efficiency. I would expect someone that only scores 15 points a game on very low volume to be at least league average in efficiency.

    I think that makes a big difference offset the 1.7 more assists.
     
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  7. DatRocketFan

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    Right now head to head?

    Comparing a pg to a sg?

    They have different roles in their team. U are trying to push your narrative that Giddey is having a better season b/c of a better fg%, more rebounds and assists?

    Im countering that jalen green is having a better season because his stats improved, and he scoring even more than he did last season.

    It's difference in opinion. We aren't using advanced metrics so unless u want to analyze further it's all subjective and cherry picking to strengthen our stance
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    No I think it's pathetic that type are purposefully ignoring my point to still die on your hill. Green is a year behind Wagner in terms of being out from high school.
     
  9. wekko368

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    So you're focusing on free throws. Remind me, how did that work out in the later stages of the playoffs when defenses were more disciplined and refs swallowed their whistles?

    FG% isn't as useless as you think. It should absolutely be considered.
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    Are you actually dismissing the concept of NBa players being able to get to the line?

    You know what it means that Green gets to the line significantly more than Giddey? It means he beats perimeter defenses a lot more. That's called a skill or talent.

    Every great scoring wing or guard in league history was able to get to the line consistently.

    Green is getting to the line with zero roil baiting also so it has nothing to do with sneaky tactics or flopping. Just purely him just beating perimeter defenses forcing help defenders to get out of position and being forced to foul
     
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    o_O

    Dude you shouldn't say things so confidently.
     
  12. wekko368

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    Good grief. Here's what was originally stated:

    "Franz is having the best sophomore year. Green is having the second best sophomore year. "

    The problem with your logic is that Green has better counting stats because he's taking many more shots. His fg%, 3pt%, and fg% have all declined from his rookie year.
     
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    And? He's still more efficient than the people you claim to be better this season like Giddey.
     
  14. maypk

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    Tell him to do it more often instead of chucking 3s from 30 ft then.
     
  15. apollo33

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    I am not focused on anything. TS% is a better measurements of efficiency than FG% because it takes into account of 3 point shooting and freethrows.

    I don't know what the playoffs have to do with anything. Are you saying Giddey is more efficient than Harden because refs swallow the whistle in the playoffs for Harden. I am confused.
     
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    Someone used ts% to compare Green v Giddey, and Green is higher than Giddey. u gonna ignore that?

    look up TS% if u don't understand that stat.

    U are cherry picking stats while ignoring the ones unfavorable to Giddey. can't really change your stance if u are ignorant.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    Hey, an actual reasonable criticism.

    Absolutely Green needs to do that more.
     
  18. wekko368

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    Getting to the line is fine, but it's not a strategy that works in the playoffs. And given his slight frame, it shouldn't be the cornerstone of his game.
     
  19. wekko368

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    You know there's more to the game than just scoring, right?
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Lol this isn't about strategy. Green isn't strategically getting to the line more. He's getting to the line more because he's just simply more talented player than someone like Giddey at getting to the rim off the dribble. It's that simple.
     

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