KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

PnR ball handler possessions for the team per game



Sorry forgot to label: games played, possessions per game, frequency, ppp, pts generated per game.

 

Well it's a good thing that both guards are sharing that responsibility right? Or are you still pretending that's not a thing so you can throw tampons at KPJ?


To answer your question, Jalen Green has the most possessions on the team where he's the pick and roll ball handler and he's averaging 0.85 points per possession with that play type....which to his credit is better than KPJ, though they both kind of suck at it.

Though another factor is that the Rockets don't really have anyone particularly good at being the roll man other than Bruno. Everyone else is mediocre at best.

Congratulations though, you did manage to find something Jalen Green was slightly better than someone else at. All "budding superstars" should have at least one thing that, while they aren't actually good at it themselves, they are better than someone else.

 

I'm actually glad someone pointed the PnR situation out.

That's damn near 20 possessions a game and the Rockets are terrible at it, but they just keep doing it anyway.

 

the young guys need those reps, totally fine with it even if they all suck at it

 

Therein lies the rub.

 

That just seems like a ton of possessions essentially wasted though. When your guards suck at being the handler and everyone else sucks at being the roll man.....I dunno, I get doing it a bit, but nearly 20 possessions a game between those two alone? Seems excessive.

 

It will help in the long run though. Wins are irrelevant right now (and obviously hurt our shot at getting a star) so i'm happy to give them those reps. I'd be giving jabari more iso/pnr reps as well. What matters is what these guys are 3-4 years from now

 

Hmm why is our off guard who can't dribble apparently more efficient by a decent amount with a larger sample size than our point god?

Pnr ball handler is literally the wheelhouse of the primary ball handler. You aren't the best primary ball handler on your team if someone else on more pnr possessions is more efficient.

 

I'm assuming pnr roll man? Because Jabari isn't a pnr ball handler. That definitely isn't part of his game.

I agree with iso possessions. I want to see Jabari operate the face up mid post area more.

 

Because both combo guards suck at it, but Green had slightly better chemistry with Sengun earlier so his numbers suck slightly less so far....though they are still really terrible.

PnR is simply not something the Rockets have the personnel for.

I see you have found the cherries you plan on picking from here on out.

IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE, I FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING!!!!

LOL, guy it's just sad.

 

Pnr is almost half of all of KPJ's possessions. And pnr is like a modern staple of NBA offenses that every offense has to master.

Also Jalen Green is hovering around 50th percentile in pnr possessions ppp which includes player who have like .8 possessions per game with like a 1.1 ppp. That's not atrocious. That's what I call mid. And mid for a 20 year old who allegedly can't dribble a ball as you said is promising. The only players higher with similar volume that are his age is Cade who came into the league known for his pnr playmaking.

KPJ is at the 35th percentile though.

 

And still he is the most turnover prone player in the NBA, as a sidekick. (Same usage as Harden this year, btw…)

The lower usage argument for KPJ is not a good one while he leads the league in turnovers, IMO. I’d go about the argument in a different way If I was a KPJ white knight.

 

KPJ as of now is being held back due to too many players needing the ball in their hands... Sengun demanding the ball every trip down the line, Jalen Green same.... These dudes need to let KPJ work and create, KPJ can't work with players like this. The defense knows everyone will be demanding the ball and taking it off of KPJ's hands. They don't need to do anything except stay with their man and let Green or Sengun turn it over. KPJ is the point guard, let him run the offense. KPJ hitting a couple of shots will make the defense have to double team him and then Sengun and Green can get their stats... I'm surprised Silas hasn't corrected these issues. KPJ's growth is being stunted by younger players who aren't ready to lead right now.

 

Ah yes, 47th percentile is better than 35th....but both are dogshit.

I'm really happy for you that you found the narrative you'll be pimping out for the next few weeks to deflect from Jalen Green's poor performance AND try to deflect from KPJ's considerably better performance.

For a while there you were struggling to come up with anything.

That said, you are still being a bit dishonest by listing the 1.1 PPP by roll men and attempting to suggest it's decent while not mentioning that it's merely the 45th percentile.....AKA dogshit.

For the record, attempting to represent the 45th percentile as good is like saying that someone with a 95 IQ is smart.....no, they aren't.

 

Yeesh...I had not looked at these numbers in a while. This is atrocious.

If you filter it for players that have a frequency of 30% or higher, you get a list of 65 players. KPJ is 50 out of 65, Jalen is 40th out of 65. When this makes up the majority of our offense, it's clear to see why we are one of the worst offenses in the league.

 

The problem is that they all have to be paid 2-3-4 years from now.

 

And yet they keep running it over and over again.

It's like the Rudy T "RUN IT AGAIN" schtick, only with something that isn't working.

 

But we’ll have more data. If Jalen in 2 years still sucks as a pnr guy his ceiling will be fairly limited and there won’t be much chance he’s a star