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The Texans HAVE to draft Bryce Young

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. raining threes

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    Agreed

    Which is why I wouldn't pick Young. Think of a lesser athletic Murray.

    Again Zero guys that size have won championships because of the reasons you stated.
     
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  2. HillBoy

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    I forgot to add that anyone who takes Young will first have to decontaminate his brain because his exposure to BoB. I agree with your assessment about his athleticism which means that in order for him to succeed, a team would need to design an offense that minimizes the impact created by his height deficiency. Now that would take an innovative, competent organization. Now, looking at the Cal & Nick clown show we have here, nothing I see there would indicate to me that those bozos are capable of pulling something like that off. In fact, I can see them doing dumb sh*t like having him practice throwing over ladders (ala David Carr) in order to stop his passes from getting batted down.
     
  3. whag00

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    Alabama offensive line 2022 goes 6’5, 6’4, 6’3, 6’3, 6’6 and last season Evan Neal was 6’7…I don’t think Young had any issues seeing the field over them.

    So height by itself probably isn’t a problem…but the lack of girth may be an issue. It really comes down to if a team believes his body can absorb hits over a 17 game season.
     
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  4. J.R.

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    Bryce very may well have some legit football flaws but it’s all height, height, height, frame, height, height, height.

    His height ain’t changing. It is what it is. Been short all his life (or at least going back to HS).
    I mean, I guess yeah, if you can’t get past that you probably shouldn’t take him but ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

    So height/frame aside(for now), any other concerns? :D

    Written today by this guy:
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-alabama-qb

    POSITIVES
    — Above-average athleticism and explosiveness. Twitchy yet smooth in the pocket. Dangerous scrambler.
    — Flexible mechanics. Finds ways to get the ball out comfortably no matter the angle.
    — Good accuracy, especially in rhythm. Leads receivers well. Flashes ability to throw away from coverage and defenders.
    — Fearless under pressure despite his size. Doesn't panic and is willing to take a hit.
    — Above-average decision-maker. Doesn't force the ball and generally does well to play on time.
    — Electric playmaker and creative mind. Excels outside the pocket and in finding unique angles to finish plays.

    NEGATIVES
    — Weight concerns. Would be the first first-round quarterback under 200 pounds since Jim McMahon in 1982.
    — Height is a problem. Sometimes struggles throwing in crowded pockets.
    — Processing became inconsistent in 2022. Took a slight step back and forced some passes this season.
    — Can be a straight-line thrower. Lacks touch in certain instances.
    — Arm strength is not bad, but more would help ease size concerns.

    OVERALL

    Bryce Young's profile shows a struggle between skill set and physical capabilities.

    The optimist's view is that Young is the best quarterback in the class. He is a sharp processor, though slightly less so in 2022 than in 2021, and understands how to play within the rhythm of a concept. He has a great understanding of which throws aren't open and how to avoid forcing the ball.

    That skill bleeds into his ability as a playmaker. Once Young decides a play is broken, either because of pressure or sticky coverage, he is quick to find an answer. Sometimes that is a timely checkdown, but more frequently it means a play outside the pocket, where his blend of athleticism, creativity and flexible mechanics creates magic.

    Young is also accurate to all three levels. Some throws that require more arc, like deep corner routes, can be troublesome, but Young can generally get the ball where he wants it.

    On the other hand, quarterbacks of Young's frame don't exist in the NFL. Not only is Young on the shorter side, which inhibits his ability to throw over defenders when they crowd him, but he is also a major outlier in terms of weight. Young would be the first quarterback who weighs less than 200 pounds to be picked in the top 100 since Pat White in 2007.

    Moreover, no quarterback under 200 pounds in the combine era (since 1999) has done anything of note besides Seneca Wallace, a fine career backup. Those size issues are worrisome as is, but it is especially so considering Young has no elite physical tools to help overcome them.

    Kyler Murray, for example, had similar concerns, but he had a much stronger arm and better athletic ability. Add those size issues to Young's decline in processing in 2022—partly a result of injury and Alabama's poor offensive line—and his profile becomes risky.

    Young is an excellent college player who needs to climb over a number of obstacles to work in the NFL. He may very well do it—he has the accuracy, playmaking creativity and baseline processing skills—but he is a major size outlier with good-not-great physical tools. Young would have a better chance to overcome those obstacles on a team with a good offensive line that can give him space and safety.

    GRADE: 8.2 (Year 1 Starter/Late Round 1, Round 2)
    OVERALL RANK: 8
    POSITION RANK: QB1
    PRO COMPARISON: Downscaled Tony Romo
     
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  5. Commodore

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    Looking forward to seeing how he does today.
     
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    Modern day Drew Brees / Tony Romo
     
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    Couple more minutes
     
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    Sign me up all day. Texans can't afford to fall in love with Levis or Stroud. They are no where near this advanced.
     
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  11. Two Sandwiches

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    Young's not playing well so far. Alabama has some linemen out, but Young underthrew a wide open WR and then totally missed another wide open WR for a dump off and took a 9 yards sack instead.
     
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    now that was a nice play with pressure in his face I don’t think him and his receivers were on the same page
     
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    I think the miscues are gone now after that deep throw
     
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    Just threw a dime
     
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    And another one…. This is our guy!!
     
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    Bama needs to take him out now...he fulfilled his obligations to the school.
     
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    The second example is the best for what he'll need in the NFL. Excellent job of pocket awareness, quick decision with eyes downfield and the tightest window he had to deliver in those examples. Very impressive!
     
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  19. evilhomer

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    Draft Bryce...Metchie was his dude and he's gonna be back next year, they work well together, let them work...
     
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