KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

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If that was regarding KPJ, I think he has improved in those two areas. I think Rockets need a Dreymond Green type leader. KPJ is trying to be a leader but he's too young, EG is too quiet and Silas just doesn't have it.

They need a vocal leader, someone to address issues when needed.

 

TyTy is still developing but we will find out real soon how good he is now Nix is benched.

That was bad by KPJ, but the whole team was playing poor defense. Last night was a total team collapse on defense. Silas can't sit the whole team.

 

That's BS.

What you are talking about is fast break defense where you just pick up regardless of defensive assignment.

Like Hollinger said, that was just regular transition after a missed basket. Everyone was back and in position to pick up their assignment EXCEPT one player. The only reason it turned into a quick score was because KPJ didn't get back. His teammates are back and matching up and getting ready to set up half court Defense. They shouldn't have to cover for KPJ's idiocy.

Again, that wasn't a fast break transition bucket. No one on the mavs is running or treating it like a break. Luka even hangs back to get the ball, but when he looks up and sees that THJ streaking wide open because KPJ doesn't care he throws it up court. Hell, THJ wasn't even running hard like it was a fast break he was really just jogging back.

That's 100% on KPJ because there is no reason he shouldn't have been in THJ's hip pocket all the way up the court. If he is, that doesn't happen.

 

You can’t sit the whole team, but you can sit the starters. That’s what they have to lose.

 

KPJ has plenty of pros and cons that others have gone into much better detail describing in this thread. The one thing I think sums up our experience with him the best, though, is this: for most point guards, when a teammate is feeling it and has a good run going, they look to feed the hot hand. KPJ’s response when a teammate starts to get hot? “OK, you had one, now it’s my turn to cook!” Sometimes it works because he’s competitive. Sometimes it doesn’t. The results of his offensive sets speak for themselves. What’s inexcusable, however, is how much worse our players’ efficiency stats are when they play next to him. He actively sabotages teammates’ box scores because they don’t get to rack up shots when they’re hot. His “your turn, my turn” approach makes people as cold as they could be, and we are the worst team in 3pt% as a result.

 

for the KPJ lovers and defenders to the death - I come back to valuation. What would other GM's put as a valuation on him. Would they be willing to trade for him? If so, what would they give up? Would they be willing to invest in such a heavy role when they did acquire him? Would they put his development ahead of others? Would they force him in a starting unit?

I can't answer the questions but I have a pretty strong assumption on the answers

 

KPJ is someone the Rockets would package in a trade with other players and picks to acquire another more talented player.

 

I don't buy this narrative. When it comes to potential assists, KPJ has more than half the other guards in the league. Oftentimes when he tries to set someone up, they brick the shot. He makes mistakes and needs to learn when to distribute or score himself, but this is a young/inexperienced roster and he's actually one of the better players. He's just average, not great...and I feel that he unfairly gets the brunt of the blame when others should also be criticized as well.

 

whataboutism is destroying the world. I get that other players have defensive lapses too; you’re fond of bringing up Green. But just remember, Green is 3 yrs younger and doesn’t pout on the court or have attitude issues. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge what’s true rather than trying to justify something that’s obviously wrong by pointing out other instances of failure. But regardless I think these are false equivalencies.

 

Who would have thought that 2000 was 3 years before 2002?

 

sorry 2 yrs

 

Either you are dumb as fxxk, or you’re straight up lying if you don’t know who has a higher ceiling.

Let me give you a hint: “Green and KPJ are twins, blah blah, SAME PLAYER, blah blah, I’ve been saying that for two years, blah blah…” Sounds familiar? Those are your own words.

Even though I don’t agree with that assessment, let’s pretend it’s true. So they’re the same player RIGHT NOW, with Green being two years younger. Who has more growth potential? Won’t take a genius to figure it out.

There is a reason why Green went #2. Because of his high ceiling! Dude has serious superstar potential if all goes well. Now whether he can reach there or not is anyone’s guess. But what’s KPJ’s ceiling? “Potential all star” in your wettest dream? LOL

 

The reason Green went number 2 and KPJ 30 is because of KPJ's history and being kicked off the college team.

IMHO, KPJ is just as talented as Green and has a similar upside.

DD

 

Rightfully so, because history repeated itself in Cleveland and Houston.

You really believe without the baggage KPJ could go #2? Mmmkay.

 

Agree to disagree. Green's first step and ability to get to the rim is light years ahead of KPJ. He's already outscoring him, and he's two years younger. KPJ is a talented kid with upside, but he's nowhere near the prospect Green was/is.

 

KPJ should be top 10 in potential assists because he's top 10 in time of possession.

 

No lol. Look at their high school rankings. Look at their pre draft comps. KPJ has never been higher than like 10th in his class.

Green has fluctuated between 1 and 2 in his class ranking his entire basketball life up till the draft.

 

DD has serious problems.

At this point I'm wondering if KPJ is clapping his cheeks.