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Jalen Green for LaMelo Ball - would ya?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 28, 2022.

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Would you trade J. Green for L. Ball?

Poll closed Jan 11, 2023.
  1. Yes

    73 vote(s)
    25.5%
  2. No

    213 vote(s)
    74.5%
  1. Lloyd Estacio

    Lloyd Estacio Member

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    I agree. His combination of Bball IQ, vision, shooting, scoring, rebounding, ability to make everyone better and confidence at 21 is hard to pass up. He’s currently averaging 24, 6, 8 and looks to be on his way to be an all star 2 years in a row
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The BBall IQ thing can't be overlooked, out of all the young Rocket's I see Jabari's as the highest - and the rest are developing.

    DD
     
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  3. Lloyd Estacio

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    That’s what separates potential good young players from great players is the IQ. Plus Lamelo seems to be a lot more serious these days as a leader and has true love for the game
     
  4. DaDakota

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    That is 100% my thoughts, you will NEVER be Great without a high basketball IQ.....and I don't see it anywhere on this team other than perhaps Jabari.....and of course Sengun.....and perhaps KMJ......

    When you are an elite athlete with great fundamentals and a high BBall IQ you get superstar....we don't have that on this team and LaMelo does have that......

    DD
     
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  5. ApolloRLB

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    No. But if we don’t get a top 2 pick, I’d trade our lottery pick this year for him with some of the Nets picks.
     
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  6. Rocket River

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    IF you say so
    I mean . .. he contributed as much to that win as Francis and Mobley did

    Rocket River
     
  7. Rocket River

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    How much do you factor in Coaching?

    Without proper coaching . . . it could all be moot

    Rocket River
     
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  8. bmelo

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    All Jalen doesnt have is strength. You can have all the iq in the world but when you get thrown off with minimal contact it doesnt matter
     
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  9. jiggyfly

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    Sounds a lot like what you do.

    Pot meet kettle.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    Based on what?

    Name a true Superstar that's comparable to Green?

    The real question actually is Green worth a max contract and what leap does he need to make to be a franchise type of player.

    Lamelo is a far better playmaker and right now is more of a superstar than Green if had to pick one it would easily be Melo because he can do most of what Green can do and is a much better playmaker he has shown he can be the focal point of an offense on a playoff team and Green has yet to do that.
     
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    Based on trajectory. Only 9 humans have averaged more ppg at his age in league history.

    He has really promising signs for a 20 year old. His ftr is really high. For example irs higher than any season of Zach Lavine's and he's a 9 year vet. He gets to the rim easily. He breaks down perimeter defenses easily. His handles are tightening up before our eyes. He has elite dribble seperation. All these things allow him in the future to be a player who generates open looks for his teammates consistently due to how often he can collapse defenses with dribble penetration.

    Fans usually don't like when young up and coming players are compared to their current superstars but I've now seen multiple Celtic fans say that Green reminds them of 20 year old Jaylen Brown but with a higher baseline skill level such as handles. That third quarter really did an impression on Celtic fans in the Garden lol.


    LaMelo has similar scoring efficiency as Green yet somehow even though he is the lead playmaker and primary ball handler has a lower unassisted fgm rate. That shows how bad the Rockets offense is run when your off guard has to create his own shots more often than a primary ball handler like LaMelo.
     
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  12. jiggyfly

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    So you can't actually answer my question and name a superstar and tried to drown me out with a wall of words.

    Typical.

    How the hell does Green remind you of Jaylen Brown when Brown is much bigger and has a totally different game and is great at defense?

    Brown does not have a higher baseline of skills what are you talking about Brown has been a better 3 point shooter and they both have had shaky handles but brown finishes at a much higher rate.

    You are not even trying to make sense. Do you think anybody would take Green over Brown in a trade?
     
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  13. Lloyd Estacio

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    That just shows that Lamelo is a more versatile offensive player in the fact that he can be both off and on the ball scorer. High IQ players know how to to play with other players… not just iso. Don’t get me wrong I’m a big Green fan but if Lamelo was available for him…
     
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  14. DaDakota

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    A bit, but I don't think coaching makes players great - I think players make themselves great through all their hard work - I mean MJ and Hakeem came into the league at 21 and immediately tore it up, they had the fundamentals and the IQ and the athleticism and work ethic.

    You can be great without elite athleticism - Bird for instance, but every great player has basketball IQ and fundamentals down pat - that is what bugs me about our roster.....the fundamentals are seriously lacking on many of our young players.

    So I don't project greatness because of it.....

    DD
     
  15. DaDakota

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    What? He is missing a left handed dribble, a competent overall dribble is consistently out of position on defense and quits at times on that end. He has very weak fundamentals and when he doesn't have the ball, you don't see much BBall IQ out of him at all.

    He doesn't scream superstar to me, he screams good NBA scorer - a potential all star, but nowhere near superstar.


    DD
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Does it really show that or does it show our offensive system with someone playing pg who didnt before a season ago?
     
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    He's not missing a left handed dribble. You literally are just making **** up.
     
  18. Lloyd Estacio

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    It could
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    I honestly don't think you have an understanding to gauge player ball iq.

    I bet you can't acknowledge any aspect of Green's bbal iq. For example his iq no screen navigation with a teammate with a live dribble is really good. He can create good efficient looks with a two man game navigating screens.

    In fact his PNR PPP this season is higher than LaMelo's.

    And please don't comment on work ethic dude. You have zero insight on Green's work ethic. Hopeful you aren't about to type some stereotype you think makes Green not a hard worker.
     
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