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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. Dobbizzle

    Dobbizzle Member

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    Wait...there's "Silas Lovers?" Where? Seriously though, he gets more hate than all of the players combined on this forum. It's almost the only universal opinion on the forum in this day and age...
     
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    SOFs blaming everyone else (per usual) crazy how there’s gonna be whining about him every game smh. No accountability
     
  4. Dobbizzle

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    I just don't get how you could even attempt to spin a narrative of "Silas Lovers" and then claim that Sengun has haters. Just shows you what a complete bizzaro world these people live in.
     
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    You're saying Sengun doesn't have haters? Or am I reading this wrong?
     
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    Yeah you're reading it wrong, I'm saying that if Silas has lovers, then respectively in terms of how much hate they receive, Sengun is positively adored. No player is more hated than Silas, the only person who is, is Tilman. So the narrative that "Silas Lovers" are hating on anybody is pure idiocy, there's probably one person on the entire forum who could even wear the label. The narratives coming out of these SOF's are actually r****ded. All of the players have haters, but to claim it's "Silas Lovers" or even remotely act like Sengun is the most hated player (KPJ by far, without question and if you challenge it you're a liar) is either straight up trolling, severe lack of reading comprehension or awareness outside of the echo chamber, or just plain idiocy.
     
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    Idk anyone who likes Silas lol. Like you said, he receives more hate than anyone
     
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  8. AlperenSengun

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    been saying this all along. But you should direct it to Silas not to Sengun. He is obviously not allowed to shoot. If Silas wanted him to shoot, he could make/force Sengun take 5 shots a game easily.

    Sengun was shooting in the euros and preseason. His form looked better, smoother and quicker. Then it stopped all of a sudden. He is taking less 3s than when he came to the league I guess. Kind of similar to how his assist numbers went down last year after he was reduced to a screen setter and like his post ups are going down. None of them are player decisions.
     
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  9. AlperenSengun

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    I don’t think there are lovers but I certainly saw a number of poster’s thinking he is doing a good job.
     
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    You can't put it all on Silas, that's not fair, and this is coming from possibly the biggest Silas hater on here. We have heard from people who are close to the team/org that they have a perception of Sengun not being a hard enough worker. I agree with you on the theory that he has been told not to shoot 3s, or to stop shooting them in games, because I noticed the same thing that you did where he used to take them and then abruptly stopped. But some of the responsibility has to lie on Sengun here, they wouldn't ask him to stop shooting them if he was good at it. I don't know where his actual percentage is if he was allowed to shoot wide open ones, but rest assured if it was actually good then they would let him shoot. Maybe they feel that he didn't practice it enough because his percentage hasn't improved enough to their liking.

    I've always been confident he can learn to shoot the 3, pretty much every single big that shoots ~80% or better on free throws also becomes a passable 3 point shooter. It's usually the Deandre Jordan/Capela types who can't learn to shoot threes. It's very rare that bigs who can make free throws fail to become 3 point shooters. So I think he'll get there, but I think some of the blame has to lie on his shoulders.
     
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    Sengun is still our best player. Not close.
     
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    why?
    its proven time and again this is the worst team in nba with no dedication to detail, nuance , effort, or any kind of serious work......i blame sengun for nothing...hes a big time professional as displayed by his play on the court...his play speaks for himself...

    blaming sengun even 1% for lacking the work ethics is ridiculous coming from the laziest and dumbest people in nba for 3rd year in a row...

    Silas even acknowledged they never practice passing to the player posting up the other day, and suddenly sengun, one of the the most talented, and surely one the best trained guys in his class, is lazy?

    lololol
     
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  13. hakeem94

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    and the best player of his draft class!!

    there's no denying that...rockets are just both dumb and lazy!
     
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    Highly disagree that KPJ doesn't have value. He has had a long period without any incident and has carried himself well for a while now.

    On another team he would be used differently. His value is a scorer, secondary playmaker. Not primary playmaker.

    KPJ's behavior on how he handles a change of roles will be the big test of his value.

    I want to keep him. I like his growth in some areas and just as a person in general. But he needs to either fill EG's role as a starting wing type player with our defense suffering or worst case he becomes 6th man.

    But I still think he can be a good starter in the league.
     
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  15. AlperenSengun

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    i understand the ‘there must be something reasonable behind this’ thinking but I am pretty sure there isn’t. It is all the related to the image Silas has of Sengun. He is giving Sengun Capela, de Andre Jordan treatment. Our players are pretty bad at a lot of things, some of them does not show the slightest improvement or any interest in improving in some areas but there is no price to it. So if that is the reasoning, that is again some special treatment to Sengun. Same for shooting percentage. Have you noticed how good our guards are shooting?

    most important of all, they are giving such a bad message and vibe. If it was just this, it would still be stupid but they do it with Fernando starting etc.

    finally not shooting at all is not acceptable, however bad you are. It is bad for the player bad for the team. Another crazy bad coaching from Silas in my opinion.

    Similar to the reasons you gave, maybe they are asking him to change his stroke and he is refusing to do it. Because I find it very weird that they would limit a player from shooting. Garuba is allowed to shoot. I really don’t have a logical explanation. Just observing what is happening.
     
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    thank you for writing
    but this i find these especially sharp and important to me at the moment

    its not just one thing or even just ten stupid and careless things, so we can give them a break or benefit of the doubt, but no its literally anything they do just shows they just dont really care and only going tru motions...and imho its not only silas.... the mistakes are so glaring and big he cant really be the only one person to blame...perhaps even not to blame at all...
     
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    sengun haters cant explain ego playing more than sengun tari KJ...just pure negligence, nepotism and incompetence

     
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  20. AlperenSengun

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    I had an exchange with @HP3 in the game thread about Sengun's fouls. As I promised, I go over his fouls here. Here is the link to his fouls.

    https://the-high-low.com/video/player/nba/2022-23/1630578/foul?ordsq=latest&shotFilters=

    In the fourth foul, offensive foul to Luka, Luka has not settled his position when Sengun jumps. I think during play, this call can go either way, but if Sengun was the one in defense, it is almost always a defensive foul.

    For the fifth foul, I just see Gordon slacking the pick and roll, not getting to luka or covering the roll man. Sengun is 2 on 1. He still should not foul, but defensively i don't see there is much he can do.
     

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