Doing this stupid trade is essentially admitting that the kpj pg experiment was a big waste of time which most of us been trying to say. Might as well move kpj to the bench or his natural position and let tyty take the rein now b4 seeing if we need to draft Scoot or sign harden. Roster balancing lol.
The difference is that LaMelo is a guy who can be a primary ball handler and can consistently create for others....and he's not one of the worst defensive players in the entire league like Jalen. The fact that the ONLY thing Jalen Green can do with any consistency at all is score and he can't even do that as efficiently as LaMelo shows you just how ridiculous the idea of Charlotte entertaining that kind of trade call would be. I don't know why you are so emotionally attached to Jalen Green, but it's weird. I'm all for rooting for the guy and hoping one day he manages to develop into a star caliber player, but you set him up for criticism by pretending that he's on a level higher than he's currently at.
I love how you just ignore every point I make and just rest what you've typed before hundreds of times.
Oh I read everything you said....I saw all of the vigorous hand waiving you were doing, it just wasn't adding up to a cogent argument, so I re-stated the reality of the situation. You think Jalen would score more if he was capable of being a primary ball handler....well, fine, but he's not. Excuses why Jalen's performance doesn't measure up to LaMelo's aren't interesting and don't further the conversation. The facts that you can't get around are that Jalen is currently inferior to LaMelo across the board. There's really nothing you can say to change that. It's not the end of the world, he's still a solid up and coming player, he's just not a "budding superstar" or at least there's nothing he's done that would suggest that thus far. It would be far better to just enjoy our developing young players rather than indulging in fantasies that they are considerably better than they are right now. When you try to compare them to their betters, it just leads to criticism.
You really didn't read what I typed or didn't comprehend it. No I'm saying Green is having to SELF create more than a primary playmaker who is an up and coming superstar on another team when Green is a secondary ball handler. I'm saying that shouldn't happen. I'm saying Jalen should be getting more easy looks off of assists. That would improve his scoring efficiency a lot. Jalen Green should not have a higher unassisted fgm % than LaMelo Ball.
Oh, no, I did read your attempt at making excuses for Jalen's performance. I just didn't buy it. Jalen isn't HAVING to self create, he's choosing to do so since he's got the highest usage on the team and he's not capable of reliably creating for others....if he wasn't creating for himself, what else would he do with the ball? Technically he's the primary ball handler now....he just lacks the skills to pull it off. I do agree though, if they dropped Green's usage back down to what it was last season, he'd be more efficient like he was last season, but they are hoping he can take strides forward and be more of a combo guard. Right now, he's not doing a very good job of it, but he's incredibly young and still very raw. Is that even something you'd want though? Do you REALLY think we need to take the ball out of Green's hands so that he can stop creating for himself in order to boost his scoring efficiency? Is that what you think is best for his long term development....or would you just like to have at least one category where he's technically better than LaMelo Ball?
On the team: Jalen Green - 63 touches per game, 4.6 min time of possession per game KPJ - 80 touches per game, 7 min time of possession per game. KPJ has the ball in his hand a lot more than Green so yes it's more reliant on his pg to find him open especially in her corners where I see KPJ miss players all the time. Also since the style of how KPJ runs pg is that he needs to either score or make sure if he passes it directly leads to an assist rather than just being an indicator of a chain of passes that generates a good bucket, Green isn't going to be the recipient of many assisted looks because the type of players KPJ is going to give assists to are his pnr roll men. Green isn't a role guy lol. So the only way someone like Green gets easy buckets of the ball doesn't stick to one guy where the ball moves around and finds Green.
Fair enough, the competent combo guard touches the ball more...but the point is that Jalen Green's usage is sky high for someone who is no good in ISO (0.80 PPP) that can't reliably create for anyone else either. With his usage that high, of course he's going to keep trying to create for himself, killing his efficiency numbers.
Green's pnr ppp is higher than KPJ's on the same exact amount of attempts per game. Green should be the primary pnr ball handler
Lol, so you whine about how Green handling the ball is the reason his efficiency is so poor... then argue for him to do it more in the same thread. That's a special kind of special.
No I'm confused why our off guard has a higher efficiency on pnr possessions as the primary ball handler than our primary ball handler. And yes Green in a system that doesn't have the ball stick would be getting more assisted open looks.
Should've have drafted Mobley or Barnes instead of Jalen - I wanted Mobley to be taken by us pre-draft. Need to get rid of our lame offensive scheme.
More usage from Gordon /KPJ with Mobley catching a lob here n there, or getting a few put back buckets from missed attempts at the rim, defense would be solid but he can't cover for the entire team The team would be ready to trade Barnes by now, but would talk themselves into keeping him because of his defensive potential KPJ would literally be the Rockets version of Luka, not saying same level effective, but style/usage
We should have at least 2 guys on this list next year. I think it all comes down to how dedicated the guys are and how well francihes develop them as much as the raw talent. We are stacked with talent in JG, JS, alpi, kpj, tari, garuba, kmj, tyty. The question is if the system franchise created efficient and capable enough to develop them properly and if it's giving enough opportunities to each one. I understand that everyone cannot be prioritized at the same time but at least we should have found more munites for tyty and tari in particular and facilitate green, alpi and Smith better.
