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Jalen Green for LaMelo Ball - would ya?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 28, 2022.

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Would you trade J. Green for L. Ball?

Poll closed Jan 11, 2023.
  1. Yes

    73 vote(s)
    25.5%
  2. No

    213 vote(s)
    74.5%
  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

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    No

    Why would either franchise do this?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    This is you repeating a stupid thing after you've been corrected on it. Be better.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Maybe they wouldn't.....the idea is in trying to balance the roster, what do you think it would take to get Lamelo?

    I think an extra shot at Wemby would be enticing to them.....along with a good young guard in KPJ, another one in Christopher and a good veteran in EGo.....but just some thoughts.

    Why do you b**** so much if you don't like the conversation then get up and leave it.....FFS.

    DD
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Because you have had a habit of just spamming Jalen Green trade requests.

    Like you have something deeply personal with that kid.
     
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  5. cbass

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    I don’t quite get your fixation on roster balance at this stage in our rebuild. It seems like you’re getting ahead of yourself.
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    When you use an analogy and claim that believing Green can be one day better than LaMelo is as absurd as saying Mathews can one day better than Jimmy Buckets, yes you are implying that the delta between Butler and Mathews is similar to the delta between LaMelo and Green.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    The problem here is that you are presuming that all opinions hold equal weight. They don't.

    An opinion based upon fact holds considerably more weight than an opinion based on hope or homerism.

    If you compare the two players, LaMelo is the more efficient scorer, the more consistent 3 point shooter, he's got a better handle, he can be a team's primary ball handler.

    Neither are very good defensively, but Green is one of the worst defenders in the NBA, LaMelo is merely mediocre to kind of bad.

    That said, maybe you're right, maybe the ONLY thing Charlotte cares about is getting to have a "Pilipino heritage day" if that happens to be the case, sure, maybe they agree to do the deal.

    Unless you have a counter argument that is based in some actual facts, just take the L and stop embarrassing yourself.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    I literally spelled out for you EXACTLY the point I was making, sorry kiddo, you can't pretend that you still misunderstand what I was saying. That's just not how it works.

    When I flat out tell you that the implication you are imagining exists simply did not happen, you can't just say "yes it is" unless you just want to prove that you are arguing in bad faith.

    I spelled out for you that the implication was that gaps between players exist and you can point it out without someone simply saying that it's an opinion to dismiss it out of hand. When there is a factual basis for a statement, it's not merely an "opinion"
     
  9. cbass

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    Lol. Sure thing big guy. I’m the one embarrassing myself.

    Your lack of self-awareness is breathtaking sometimes. And I’ve been reading your rants as a lurker for years, dating back to the BattleRedBlog, before you got banned there.

    Just keep on insulting people for disagreeing with your opinions that you claim to be facts. All you’re doing is proving me right.

    Jah bless, champ.
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    The selection of players you used is horrible. So yes it's your fault because of your poor diction or purposeful trolling that you wanted to paint a picture that the delta between Green and LaMelo is similar to the delta between Mathews and Butler.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    As predicted, you don't even attempt to make a cogent argument. That's why I can't take people like you seriously, anyone can merely say that someone is wrong, but if you have nothing of substance to back it up, you're just jerking off.

    I never insult people for merely disagreeing with me, the way I see it, the lazy simpletons that fail to even attempt a counter argument insult themselves.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Honestly most of your takes are simplistic but I think you know that because I think it's intentional for trolling purposes.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    I think a reasonably intelligent person would have no problem understanding the point I was making in the context of the larger conversation....and everyone but a complete moron would certainly understand it after I spelled it out for them. Sorry kiddo, you've got no excuse.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    No I think the reasonable take away from your original post I'm referring to was to claim that believing that Green could develop to be better than LaMelo is as absurd as thinking that Mathews can one day develop to be better than Butler.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Well sure, that's YOUR shortcomings, I accept that.

    As I said, a reasonably intelligent person would read the statement in context and understand what was being said. I also said that everyone but a complete moron would certainly understand it after I spelled it out for them. Both of those are factual statements.

    I never suggested you would be capable. The fact that you are still pretending to misunderstand kind of speaks volumes.
     
  16. cbass

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    Lol. You really can’t help yourself, can you. Again, please keep proving me right. It’s great.

    Also, my guy below here laid out the pro-Jalen argument quite well. Not that I need to defend my opinion against you. Because, again, my whole point was that you speak with certitude about things that you don’t know and then put your opinions forward as fact, when they aren’t, and then you insult people.

    And you would think, someone who has been as loudly wrong as often as you have been would acquire some kind of humility, but I respect your refusal to do so. It’s remarkable.

    One love, bro.

     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Here's the thing, I don't even consider someone having disagreed with me until they can come up with some kind of counter argument as to why they disagree.

    A reflexive "nuh uh" has no value whatsoever.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    No nothing you say is factual. It's opinion based.

    Anyways it's obvious that you were trying to suggest that that the delta between Green and LaMelo is similar to Mathews and Butler.
     
  19. harold bingo

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    Not to endorse his arrogance and constant insults here, but he wasn't saying those were equally absurd scenarios. He was giving an exaggerated example to prove the point. He's not saying they are equal deltas.
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Well, so you couldn't come up with anything, but you did point to something someone else said, so I'll count that.

    Notice how the only actual stat listed is Jalen's 22 points per game? Literally everything else written is essentially "I hope he does this one day"

    You could write something similar for basically every young player in the entire league. It's fluff, not substance.

    There is no case, based on actual numbers that HAVE happened, not what you hope could happen one day, for Charlotte to do anything but laugh and hang the phone up in your face if you offered Green for Ball.

    I give you credit for trying to steal the thoughts of others since you don't have any of your own, but they fall short.
     

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