Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Don't fall for this sht man.

You are better than this. Call out his BS for what it is.
he owes you nothing.

 

You should move to China. You love big government so much, you can have it there.

 

@Major is remarkably uneducated.

„The very purpose of the First Amendment is to foreclose public authority from assuming a guardianship of the public mind through regulating the press, speech and religion. In this field, every person must be his own watchman for truth, because the forefathers did not trust any government to separate the true from the false for us.“

Justice Robert Jackson, 1945

The government can use its resources to promote its own speech (or correct false speech), but it may not shut down someone else's speech - on Twitter or elsewhere.

Clearly, the level of coordination and pressure on social media companies to ensure that dissenting voices from the "ministry of truth"'s narrative would be suppressed constitutes a first amendment violation.

 

Dima and Elon’s Excellent Twitter Adventure
Kremlin officials and captains of industry were once serious people.

By Tom Nichols

Dima Trolls; Elon Rolls
I do not miss the Cold War. The United States’ great conflict with Soviet communism dominated the first 30 years of my life and determined the path of my early career, and I am glad it is over. And yet, here I am, in a strange reverie about the Cold War at the end of 2022, more than 30 years after the lowering of the Soviet flag. Why? Well, allow me to introduce you to Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of the Russian Federation’s Security Council, and his new conversation partner, the Twitter CEO Elon Musk. The debates of yesterday, the banter between Richard Nixon and Nikita Khrushchev, and the frosty competition between Ronald Reagan and Yuri Andropov have been replaced by the equivalent of Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted “Theodore” Logan shouting “Excellent!” and high-fiving each other over freaky Russian fan fiction.

In case you missed it this weekend, Medvedev—a crony of Russian President Vladimir Putin who was also once the actual president of Russia—went on a long Twitter rant with his predictions for 2023. I do not know if Little Dima (as he is sometimes called in Moscow) is a drinking man, but I can only hope that he was completely swacked when he went on this tirade. In any case, let’s take a look at what a guy who was once the supreme commander of all Russian forces thinks will happen next year.

... Dima trolling ...

No Twitter thread this nutty would be complete without trolling the gargantuan ego of the self-described Chief Twit, Elon Musk. According to Medvedev, Musk will “win the presidential election in a number of states which, after the new Civil War’s end, will have been given to the GOP,” whatever that means.

Musk’s response? “Epic thread!!” He even made sure to add that extra exclamation point. You can almost see him nodding and hitting the power chords on an air guitar when he says it, probably in an attempt to be sarcastic and generate attention at the same time. Several hours later—perhaps after the intervention of an adult—Musk clarified his position and wrote, “Those are definitely the most absurd predictions I’ve ever heard, while also showing astonishing lack of awareness of the progress of artificial intelligence and sustainable energy.”

Great. That ought to do it. Thanks very much, Elon.

This is where the nostalgia creeps in. I don’t care that Dmitry Medvedev sounds like a guy in a musty Soviet beer joint railing about the United States. I care that a senior Kremlin official—a man who was once at the top of the Russian nuclear chain of command—is tweeting out vile nonsense and people are merely shrugging, like it’s just another day in our weird century. I care that one of the richest men in the world, an industrialist who controls a large swath of the public square, responded to these unhinged tweets like a goofy teenager.

I look forward to the new year. I am glad that the dangerous 20th century is long over, and I am convinced we live in better times today. But I admit that I find myself ruefully nostalgic for a world that was dominated by serious adults who believed in serious things.

 

Lol…. 1945…..

Were they trying to figure out how freedom of speech applies to the age of the internet and social media?

 

Yawn….. let’s be clear that you are an authoritarian when it suits your interests and your ideology.

Let’s not insult anyone’s intelligence and try and claim you aren’t a partisan or have full throated supported of Musk. Anyone posting in the D&D is a partisan.

 

Lol…. You are pathetic with your hyperbole.

Sounds like you, DeSantis, and Musk would love China’s censorship. You can just legislate the woke out of speech!

 

Intelligent, rational people understand this.

These populist Conservatives don’t care that Russia is using social media to destabilize the West because the rhetoric also appeals to them… victomhood… xenophobia… Christian nationalism…. anti woke….

 

I'm actually glad that there seems to be a Supreme Court now of which the majority of judges is not infected with the woke mind virus.

 

Today's Republicans talking about 1A is like today's Republicans talking about fiscal conservativism.

Republicans grew the national debt by 10T when they gained power.

DeSantis censored and financially pressured private companies for their stance.

 

Republicans think cooperation with the private sector is gov censorship when it's a basic function of good governance.

 

When have I been an authoritiarian?
I have criticized Musk.

You are correct. We are all partisans in some form or fashion. For your clarification, I see little difference between the left and right. The right is unapologetic to everyone. The left is only apologetic when it suits their needs.

 

When it suits your needs….but I am using “authoritarian” very broadly as you’ve been using it.

But you clearly see one side more favorably…. which is why you’ve been arguing for the conservative point and conservative victimhood.

 

Weird and odd claim. I think I was pretty clear on my stance on the Iraq War when it happened.

You mean like giving social media companies information on suspected fraudulent and foreign misinformation accounts?

Good thing the government did not suppress anything. It's almost like you didn't actually read the details of what you complain about.

Twitter 1.0 did a lot to stop it - they had entire teams and tracked down and killed millions of those accounts. It's a game of whack-a-mole - no social media has found the ideal way to stop it all. But Twitter 2.0 fired all those people and has put zero emphasis at all on the issue.

Of course Edward Snowden was a traitor. He revealed classifed information that got Americans doing their jobs killed and damaged American (legal) national security interests around the world. It's basically the definition of being a traitor. We won't know for decades the amount of damage he did and how many people around the world are dead because of it. Of course, as a Putinphile, I can see how you think that destroying US intelligence operations and exposing foreign assets would be a great thing. But that's a separate issue from whether the government was acting irresponsibly or doing anything illegal. Both things can be true.

I've been accused of a lot of things, but being authoritarian is a new one. Also bizarre coming from a DeSantis fanatic, when his entire philosophy is to use government as a weapon against citizens he doesn't like or disagrees with. His voter fraud police force (which has dismissed all its cases so far after photo-op-ing arresting a bunch of minorities) and his willingness to use govenment to destroy the lives of innocent asylum seekers for personal political gain, or going after Disney as an anti-woke-speech platform (note that he was fine with their other political speech) are just a few recent examples. You literally support the most authoritarian governor in the country and think he'd be an excellent President.

Also weird coming from the person who strongly believes the US should cave to authoritartians around the world and let them expand their influence with no resistance.

 

It’s like what they did with the 2A…. They try to change the meaning of an amendment through their media.

They are trying to redefine the 1A….

 

Or when private companies try and uphold their own standards….

Like we completely forgot that newspapers and other periodicals have editors and standards….

 

Musk is part of the current Right.

He is very much unapologetic to everyone, very loudly, except for China. He's quite impulsive with his criticism and insult of everyone from POTUS to a nobody Twitter account while staying completely hush toward PRC for things he has publicly shown strong convictions. PRC zero covid policy. PRC no free speech policy. PRC suppression lab leak investigation. And so on...

Why? Depends on if it suits or not suits his need. What you said here of the left here but not of the right, yet you often equate them ... huge blind spot.