Yes. Unrealistic. No concept of how most players progress. No concept of what rebuilds looks like. The Rockets had a 3 year plan to bottom out and it looks like the forum did too.
Yes, YES....a MILLION times yes. And I agree with Sam, we don't have a guy as good as Paulo who is clearly "THE GUY".....I am hopeful for Jabari still, but I don't believe Green is that guy or ever will be. DD
Let's be honest - How many of those players have been in the last two drafts? We never had a chance at Banchero .....
Sure, but I think combined with what it looks like on the court with a system or lack thereof, the frustration at times is warranted. But to get down on specific individuals is a bit silly, I've been overall much more positive than I think the average person here and what I figured I would be going into this year. The sky is falling overreaction threads I barely waste time on, but I think emotional posts in the game thread withstanding, we could use some perspective so kudos on starting this thread. As we can see, most of us recognize and agree with you OP.
I think this is short sighted. Guys who become franchise players don't always show it the first year or two or three.
If they do not even show it in their 3rd year, the odds of being that franchise player drastically gravitates from little to zero. If that player doesn't repay the franchise with performance, the trust that the franchise put in the player will gradually wane. Short sighted or not, time has always been money.
This is a young team, noıt a class of kids with special needs. If they're stupid, they have to be corrected. If they're selfish, they have to be punished. If they're disinterested, they have to be focused. I say rough Silas up in front of them. That'll bring all those spoiled brats to their senses.
Says we’re too hard on the young team a MILLION times. Goes on to say a 20 yo sophomore will never be the guy.
Simple. A player can carry a team or not. Eventually or from the start. Our early problem has been that we have 2-3 potential All Star caliber dudes plus couple very good prospects all vying for PT, touches, shots, attention, plays run for them.
True - but let's at least give them until that 3rd year? Green's scoring has jumped along with his assist numbers - and if he finishes the year strongly again, I think there is certainly something worth hoping for next year. Smith - they have only just started running plays for him. Let's see how he goes the back end of this year, let alone next! Both guys have serious work to do on their bodies as well, adding muscle will help significantly. I also look at the 23 draft and see a lot of pieces that would mesh well with Green/ Smith. If we ended up with one of those pieces, who turns into the alpha, fine by me!
For me, it is pretty clear, they need a veteran All Star caliber player to will them into the Playoffs , once there, experience will be gained. I do not think there is a hierarchy, without hierarchy, you essentially waste time with having chaos in the midst. Either you have a Top 10 player in the league or you have someone who has been a top player. (I hope that player is younger than a James Harden.) If you don't have a Lebron caliber, you could still field a team that is a Playoff team.
I didn't say he sucked, I just don't see Superstar in him, not his personality......you can disagree, that is ok. DD
Probably, likely, will know by next year. In all honesty, Giannis would have had a hard time developing under Silas.
Agreed. Without a competent coach and a quality veteran guard (and no, EG ain’t it) to show him the right way to play the game, we don’t really know what Green is capable or incapable of.
That would take care of the chaotic bs system and cronyism. If KPJ's thumbs were to be broken right after, an earnest message against hero ball, stat padding and selfishness would reach its destination. "Let this be a lesson to all of us."
Exactly! Age isn’t an excuse not to hold players responsible. For example, KPJ should have been punished long time ago when he left the court in the middle of game. He shouldn’t have been allowed to start again for some serious time. Silas and Stone are TOO WEAK at the department of reeducation.
While I appreciate a realistic viewpoint, this seems overboard. By that definition of a franchise player, there has been only 1 in the last 2 drafts, which statistically I find hard to believe. Also, Jalen's stat line is almost identical to Paolo's this year, and I'm not at all concerned about rate of maturity when you're talking about +/- 1 year. Tate was a good move in my opinion. If he doesn't have a place on the Rockets, he will enhance a trade one day. While it can be taken too far, I also appreciate Stone's obvious efforts at making the Rockets a place that takes care of its players and a place for the best free agents. If a useless contract for Tate can do that, then it's worth it with no other justification. Also... you might let the guy get back on the court before declaring him a bad decision. Garuba is basically 30 games into his career, and has shown plenty of great flashes. If Sengun is not a future starter, he's going to be an amazing 6th man.
Yes. But this is sport and they are millionaire entertainers. So who cares how hard we are on this team. They suck, which is fine, but they play ugly basketball ... So ...
