This is also why you can’t judge whether a player is generational or not while they’re still in the midst of their careers. You also can’t say Pena is on pace to eclipse Correa either based on one so-so offensive season and one great post-season.
Well it's ridiculous and most likely won't amount to a hill of beans. They still have Atlanta and Philly just in their division. The Dodgers haven't gone away. And that's what they are facing just to come out of the NL. Then you have the Astros. Good luck Cohen.
Pena had an epic postseason. That's about the extent of what you can say about him right now. Is he the guy we saw do so well in the 2 slot? Or is he the struggling rather weak hitter we saw for a substantial part of the season down in the lineup? I think he batted around .225 in the 7 hole.
I think you can judge if a player is generational once they have played 7 plus years, do you see him making some kind of huge jump going forward? I am not saying Pena will eclipse Correa either, but I would take that bet over Correa ever being a Generational player. I really just don't understand why Correa can't be talked about without worshiping him.
He’s gotten two offers above $300 million… one offer at $285 million… and an offer last year at $280 million. If you really want to calculate his raw numbers out to determine his value, he does seem to be worth the offers. Whether or not he can stay healthy for the duration has always been the question, but not the production when healthy.
Two, not three, not four, not five. Two. Ohtani? Generational. Trout? Generational. Correa was replaced easily the very next season he left. That’s not generational, that’s being very good.
Even this post is ridiculous… nobody in here is “worshiping” him… but from claiming he wanted to be a Yankee back as early as 2016 to blaming his wife for his “decisions” to seemingly having an axe to grind with each and every accomplishment or achievement… he has created a ton of backlash in response to almost anything about him. Is Rendon a generational player? Is Trea Turner a generational player? Machado? Tatis? All of those guys are going to be paid like they are for the next 10+ years. In the end, these contracts become “standard” for any all-star caliber/gold-glove caliber/post-season successful type player.
How “generational” are those players when they can’t even get to the post-season? Its pretty easy to move the goal-post around when using such arbitrary terms… Yao Ming was considered “generational” at one point. Not so much anymore.
Exactly " All in the same year" It's crazy after a single season people are saying he is better than Correa. Pena had a 101 OPS+ last season. Correa has had 6 seasons of 124 OPS+ or better. Pena Kd 24.2% of the time. Correa has a career K rate under 20.5%. Pena walked less than 4% of the time. 7.2% is the worst Correa has ever had. It's not fair to compare Pena to Correa. It's not even close. Hopefully we can say it is in 3-4 more years.
Dude calm down, you have your take and I have mine and yeah plenty of people worship correa, and you are one of them. None of those guys are Generational and that includes Correa so I guess we are in agreement that he is not generational? Because that was my only point I don't care how much money he is getting, more power to him. If you could get out of your feelings, you could actually understand what my posts said.
Who said he was better than Correa? Thank you all for making my point, I have not seen anybody say he was better.
Correa couldn’t get to the playoffs either when he left the Astros. Do you really want to use that measure?
You stated Trout and Ohtani can’t get to the playoffs when Correa couldn’t without the Astros. In fact he had to go join a team better than the one he was on. So yes you did use that measure. Baseball is more about getting to the playoffs because you have to have a team filled with depth when injuries occur, a bullpen, and a reliable rotation.
That's because you literally called Ohtani and Trout generational in your post and he responded by asking how generational are they really. He didn't use it as the actual measure. Only you did. Hence the goal post moving reference, since you're now accusing him of something he isn't actually doing
I’m not lumping any of these guys in the same category. I just showed how “generational” can mean a number of different things to different people who watch this sport, and how it does require an entire career to really make these judgements (hence the Yao comparison).
Yeah you do, it's obvious this made you feel some kind of way. You need to start being truthful with yourself.
