Tim McMahon: Rumor Harden might return to Houston?

Nope don't like that deal they need to throw in a 2rd pick also to make up for that 15lbs harden has gained.

 

I'm sold. I actually love Nathan Fogg now.

 

Man, having listened to him talking about the Rockets and also digging into his history...

This dude is not our friend and is making sh*t up about our team. Did he really go around the league and ask about whether the Rockets are capable of developing our pool of talent? Or did several people randomly bring that up to him? Did he really hear Harden might come back or is he trying to paint the organization as stupid?

This dude does not like the Rockets and really does not like Harden. He is making sh*t up.

 

I also do not like him. Im not gonna bring up the merit of his reporting but I really REALLY dont like him.

 

Yeah, you know if you're a reporter who isn't breaking much news then you have to break some news or you're not going to get clicks. If you're going to make sh*t up, you're going to do it about the team you dislike the most and it's painfully obvious the Rockets are his least favorite team in the NBA and Harden is his least favorite player.

Don't fall for this guys, this report is laughable to NBA fans in general and he's playing on your nostalgia about Harden returning.

Isn't he a Mavericks fan?

 

you are an hate account, I’m sure you don’t like anyone besides Gordon, 34 years old future superstar.

 

I don't know if it will happen or not but people are crazy for thinking Harden would not help the team lol.

He would be a better PG than anyone we can draft right away and he would make everyone else on the team instantly better. We'd instantly be a playoff team with Harden, not just a play-in team, but instantly be a playoff team and yes even with this version of Harden.

Yes he's on the decline but you can add a declining superstar to a team with youth because the idea is that while Harden declines our young players will get better but now they don't have to be superstars every night.

Basically, NBA games in an 82 game season are usually determined by who is the best player on the court that night. Superstar players are superstars because most nights they are the best player on the court. Aging superstar players can't pull this off every night though, just not able to, and young stars with potential (Like Green) can't do it because they are not consistent enough yet...so when you add a guy like Harden he can coast when guys like Green are hitting (and Harden has no issues deferring to hot players) and then Harden can take over when guys are cold.

Actually out of all the vets that might be out there for the Rockets to add Harden should be top of that list.

As for KPJ and what happens to him, he plays the other wing or comes off the bench, that should be his role anyways.

EDIT: Also, I don't care about what he does off the court bro. Green, Jabari, Sengun, yeah they are young but also grown ass men. Sengun isn't going to start hitting up strip clubs because Harden does, Neither is Jabari. Like Harden isn't going to come in and raise them as if he's their papa. These people have their own support systems and upbringing for better or worse. Jabari is a hard worker, that isn't going to change because Harden is at the strip club post-game. I do know that Harden DID make the people he played with perform better because of the gravity he has on the court and a willingness to defer.

 

Helping does not mean championship.

If it aligns with his goals why not but I would not give him a retirement plan and only 20 million, the same as KPJ.

You would need every million for the supporting cast and a home discount would be ideal.

Wouldn't make sense to throw 40 million at an aging guard.

But to me Harden the Diva is whatever, he isn't dead to me but I haven't forgotten how he exited.

 

Why not?

CP3 is older and was added to a Suns team that is now a contender. He undoubtedly was a big reason for that, now he's not as impactful as he was but they definitely improved (especially Booker who did not know how to win games) because of having him around.

CJ was added to the Pelicans (even without Zion) and INSTANTLY improved a ton. This is CJ McCollum we're talking about, a fringe all-star player.

Aging superstars can help young teams...by a lot. Harden is more than an aging superstar, he's an aging generational player that can still put up numbers better than 90% of the league. Not only that, a PG.

We're not tanking past this season, if our goal is to make the playoffs next season and get our young guys that playoff experience that is vital to their growth this does that. Yes, it brings us closer to a championship, that's all you can do is get closer and closer. Harden has been through playoff wars, he's not worried about some zone against the Magic on a random Wed night. He'd literally show the team how to beat it and there you go, they've learned something.

If it's not some insanely long deal that will hurt their future you 100% do it.

As for why Harden does it, don't know. That's on him. My guess is he really likes the city, misses it, and realized that winning a championship as a hanger on doesn't mean as much as winning one in Houston like Lebron realized when he went back to Cleveland.

 

Harden hasn't mentored anyone, Maxey was on the rise before he was even traded there.

No need to write a thesis about it, it would be strictly a business decision meaning short term deal, no excessive burden for the franchise.

No feelings should be involved either.

Short and concise.

Harden isn't CP3, he is a better player but not the mentor or floor general CP is.

The Suns are contenders but hardly a sure thing and the Rox are far away even with Harden who was injury prone the last years.

It's not like old Harden is a defensive juggernaut that can deliver defensive stops consecutively.

 

Dude, everyone of us and I mean everyone who watched him play knows what he can bring to this team.

You don't have to lecture us about it.

Ad nauseum is the word, to the extent we talked about him.

Doesn't mean everyone wants him back.

 

You're the one replying to me my guy, I'll write as much as I want about in my reply.

The point is, since you want short and concise. Harden makes the Rockets MUCH MUCH better.

Does it make them immediately a championship team, no...but you become a championship team by becoming a better team.

You add Harden, your young guys get better, you add another vet piece or two...there you go.

The main point is he makes the team better.

Also, feelings are ALWAYS involved in any interaction between humans. We are all humans, including Harden and the GM and the Owners.

 

Lol @ Harden fanbois losing their MFing minds over some speculative BS from a trash article that makes zero sense.

Bunch of hypocrites in this thread who were/are quick to dismiss any potential trade or free agent targets that are older than 28 saying “they don’t fit our timeline”. But a 34 year old James Harden somehow fits? How?? He doesn’t. Saying he fits cause we need a PG is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Y’all just see the assist numbers and assume he’s got the same impact on winning as CP3. NO! He’s still the same ball dominant, iso heavy, slow decision making bum that absolutely needs the ball in his hands to make things happen.

If he doesn’t make it happen in Philly with Joel freaking Embiid, Tyrese Maxey and the rest of the supporting cast how indafuq is he going to make it happen here? He won’t. Not in Philly and sure as hell not here. Dude’s a loser and he’ll be 2nd round fodder again in May after another spectacular FAIL…. yet his fan club still clamors for him and welcomes him with open arms.

 

Dude, all I ask is a short contract. Go from there, extend from there, year by year or 2 years each.

Get that in your head.

I have enjoyed our conversations, but that would be where I draw the line, you got to learn from mistakes.

I won't ever back down from that.

I don't give a flying fork about Harden the person at this point, he has made gazillions of millions already.

I mean the Rockets are a franchise that I watched during 3 decades and even if they are not the most perfect franchise or even close to it, they don't deserve another shetshow when Harden came into the camp fat and overweight.

Nothing he did warranted any of the last crap he pulled.

 

Harden again? The man is washed. Let’s get someone in their prime in to mix with the young guys. New Era new chapters, the Harden book in Houston is written and we came up short. Let’s move the hell on.

 

DUMBALYTICS FANS JUST LOVE THEM SOME HARDEN

a guy that got stopped and beaten in playoffs by Johnatan Simmons lolololol

does anyone here even remmeber who johnatan simmons was?
lolool

and dont tell me its an aberation cause he got beaten in the playoffs last year by undraftees
LOL

 

no he will never pass to sengun just like KPJ...sengun needs the ball in his hands and is a better both player and playmaker than harden already

 

we already drafted a better PG his name is alperen

 

Yikes.....

 

Never seen a more selfish, washed, ball hoggin 21 assists in my lifetime.