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Trust Fund Baby's Latest Legal Loss

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Dec 1, 2022.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    If you read the articles, he WASN'T audited for his returns while he was President. And from what has been presented, all presidents and vice presidents are supposed to have their returns audited while in office.
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think it says the IRS audited them and didn't turn them over to the Ways and Means Committee

    Edit: he can't stop audits
     
  3. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    no, it says the IRS was lax and did not audit.
     
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Regardless they have his tax returns. That's not his fault but I think you're wrong anyway. The issue is not audits, it's The Ways and Means Committee getting them and releasing them to the public
     
  5. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    why shouldn’t public officials be required to be transparent and disclose their tax returns (and possibly other info) so that the voting public can assess whether they have financial ties to anything that could cause them to be influenced or biased?

    it is supposed to be a position to serve the people. So be honest and disclose information so people can cast an educated vote
     
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  6. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    what’s wrong with releasing them to the public. Every other president in history has done so. Trump refused. Now he is being held to the same standards. I mean it is only the most powerful position in the world.
     
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  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't know why he doesn't want people to know and I don't care. He pays his taxes, he's rich. What more do I need to know?

    As far as your concern about what he maybe influenced by, I just don't think that is an issue that he could hide, questionable income sources. It would come to light. But that's just me. I don't think Trump has done anything unique in terms of benefitting anyone in particular. He is just a typical trickle down voodoo economics idiot
     
  8. larsv8

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    The facts...apparently.
     
  9. adoo

    adoo Member

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    PGab lacks the mental capacity to understand that Trump doesn’t want people to know that
    • Many of his businesses are not profitable, as evidenced by his the net operating loss carry forward
    • He debtors include Russian oligarch, Chinese banks/Co
    • He had loan $$$, in the millions, to his adult children. They’re actually gifts, meaning tax liability for all parties involved
    • Cash donation, as reported in the tax returns, could be cross-checked w the recipients
    • Etc
     
  10. Rileydog

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    This is totally ass backward. Ok, you don’t care and you don’t want to know. Fine that’s you.

    Let me ask you this - Why NOT require presidents to disclose their taxes? And congressmen and women? They want our vote, they want our trust. Fine, disclose so people can see what your finances are about. If you don’t have anything shady to hide, shouldn’t be a problem. If you do have problems, we are entitled to know. We should get to know if you are a tax cheat or not. We should get to know if you lie about how rich and successful a businessman you are, right?

    Explain what’s the downside of requiring disclosure? I can’t fathom that you are this obtuse that you can’t see how disclosure is to the benefit of the voting public.
     
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  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    First...I never said he "can't stop audits".

    You can read this (one of many articles) indicating the IRS did not audit Trump's taxes the years he was President.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/irs-donald-trump-tax-audit-failure

    Here is the first paragraph:

    US tax authorities failed to audit Donald Trump for two years while he was in the White House, Democratic lawmakers said, despite a program that makes tax review of sitting presidents compulsory.
     
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  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    His businesses aren't profitable? So what?

    He has borrowed from Russian oligarchs? No this a stupid conspiracy theory https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/...evidence-that-trump-owes-money-to-russia.html
    You are still sadly claiming Russia colluded with Trump. Let it go

    I understand Trump was building up his reputation to get votes. There is nothing illegal about that and it's not a issue the IRS is in charge of
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Where is Trump at fault because the IRS didn't do the audit?

    Why do his returns need to be made public because the IRS didn't do the audits?
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Because it's none of your business. He is paying his taxes. If he weren't that would be an issue.

    You as a voter have every right to not vote for him for not making his tax returns available but no one should be compelled to.
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You asked "as president were his tax returns audited"

    I posted that his tax returns were not audited for the years he was President while he was President.

    You then replied "I think it says the IRS audited them and didn't turn them over to the Ways and Means Committee"

    I then responded with a link (I could have cited many) showing that it didn't happen.

    Nothing more...I simply showed you the proof where, while Trump was President, the IRS did not audit those years of his returns, even though it is compulsory. I didn't lay blame with Trump. I didn't do anything other than provide factual information.
     
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  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Okay yes those are the facts but my overall is he has done nothing wrong.
     
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    His company didn’t pay taxes. What makes you think he payed personal taxes?
     
  18. deb4rockets

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    He pays his taxes? You mean he cheats and lies to avoid being taxed correctly. SMH
     
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  19. deb4rockets

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    I think Trump is a con, a criminal, a traitor, seditionist, and a fraud. I think he would sell our nation's Top secrets to the highest bidder if it got him a real estate deal, power, or money. You can keep believing that criminal did nothing wrong, but it doesn't mean that scumbag is innocent. Lies, lies, lies, are all he knows how to spurt out his mouth.
     
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  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    He did nothing wrong here. I don't defend taking classified documents.
     

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