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Breaking news: Correa to the Mets!

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by DaBeard, Dec 21, 2022.

  1. jim1961

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    Carlos better hope he passes the Mets physical.
     
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    Yeah man you are right, doctors are evil. Glad you are onto their conspiracy. To be safe just be sure to never ever visit a hospital or doctors office because they are only trying to get your money. Actually Marshall if I were you I would avoid healthcare professionals of all kinds at all cost. And don’t take any poisonous medicines anyone recommends, it’s all just a big money grab!!!
     
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  3. Madmanmetz

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    Giants owners didn't want to hook themselves to that long of a deal. It's not smart money. Mets will be happy they won the offseason but long term its very likely they are stuck with multiple long high dollar players producing average to below average results. They better win soon.

    Honestly if I was Cohen I'd sign everybody too. My grandmother always said she's never seen a Wells Fargo wagon in a funeral procession.
     
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  4. Tuckmose

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    Below average results? They just won 101 games and replaced their weakest hitting starter with a down-ballot MVP candidate. They may have only had the run differential of a 95 win team, but they can easily cross the 100 win mark again.
     
  5. TheRealist137

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    Steve Cohen doesn't care. He makes ridiculous amounts of money with his investments/main job. He is a lifelong Mets fan and just wants to see the Mets win a WS. I also heard that his father in law is also a Mets super-fan and is ill. He wants to win a WS before his Father in law passes.

    If the Mets don't win it next year, Cohen will be fine dropping another $300M guaranteed next offseason.
     
  6. lalala902102001

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    To someone as rich as Steve Cohen half a billion dollars is nothing. That's like lunch money.

    That's why you need a hard cap in the MLB. Small market teams simply can not compete with that.
     
  7. SamCassell

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    Their rotation is awesome, the lineup is deep, the defense is much improved... they'd have to sustain multiple serious injuries to fall short of 100 wins. Just glad they're in the NL. Astros may check off another NL East matchup in the 2023 World Series.
     
  8. Madmanmetz

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    The context was long term. How many long term contracts are worth it after 4 years. VERY FEW. The list of players being overpaid on long term deals (below average/or average results) is way longer than the list of players still performing at All star level.

    Just last year Kris Bryant was sign by Rockies seven years $182. If he doesn't have a better season this year they call that a massive over pay for below average results.

    How about Yelich? 2.7 WAR 2023 $26 million thru 2028.

    The Yankees great Stanton? 0.7 WAR 2023 $32 million thru 2025 then still 29 million, 25 million and then finally in 2028 club option 10 million.

    Remember Strasburg? 4 more years each at 35 million. He's made 8 starts since he signed in 2019.

    How about his former teammate that many people wanted Crane to sign, Rendon? He has a decent 2.2 WAR in short Covid season. But he has been BELOW AVERAGE ever since. 38.6 million every single year thru 2026. Do you see my point now?
    Lindor has 9 more seasons at $32 million he will be 29 next year.
    Nimmo has 8 more at $20 million he will be 30 next season.
    Now add Carlos for the next decade plus...

    Odds are below average performance or average in the long term.
     
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    There won’t be any owner outbidding Cohen for Ohtani. 500-600M incoming.
     
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    Loved Correa as an Astro but this dude is such a diva. The Dior comment definitely adds to that perception. Thought so during his tenure here too.
     
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  11. Madmanmetz

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    Yep I stated this earlier in the thread.
     
  12. The Beard

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    The Mets better hope he does cause Cohen has already commented on the deal, a big no no, but as long as it goes through nothing will be said or done about it
     
  13. Major

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    Doesn't the luxury tax get distributed to all the smart market teams? Pittsburgh or Miami or KC or whomever else weren't winning anything this year anyway - they are probably happy with this system letting them pocket a bunch of free extra money. Even better if the Mets start a bidding war with other teams trying to follow in their footsteps.
     
  14. Major

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    All the examples you cited were players who sucked in year 1 or 2 of their deals. The issues there have nothing to do with the long-term-ness. Those support an argument that you should never sign free agents period.
     
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    I know you thought you were being condescending, but it's probability good advice.
     
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  16. Madmanmetz

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    They have most recently sucked so unless they turn it around they will continue to be below average.

    If you want a completed long-term study look at Albert Pujols he had a 12.8 War for 10 seasons total.
     
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  17. SamCassell

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    If you are saying that Correa will be overpaid in the final couple years of this deal... duh. That's the point of the long term contracts - the player is paid below-market in his prime (versus what he could get on a shorter deal) and in exchange is probably overpaid in his late 30s.

    The Mets knew that part of the deal when they offered the contract. So did the Giants.
     
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  18. Madmanmetz

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    No I'm saying the Mets have three players with very long contracts all about to be 30 and the odds are they'll be putting out average to below average output in about another 4 years. I said before if I had the money I'd sign everyone. Mets might win it the next 3 years and that's way than more worth it. However its baseball and you still gotta play the games. They might not even knock off the Braves the next 3 years.
     
  19. SamCassell

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    Correa is 28, I don't know why you think his window is 4 years. Altuve is 32, I don't think he's going to be MVP again but he's still amazing. We just signed 35-year-old Jose Abreu for 3 years. He'll be as old at the end of this contract is Correa will be at the end of his.

    The real problem for the Mets long term is that the rotation is very old. But I'd imagine they can just sign good pitchers to replace Scherzer, Verlander, etc when they finally drop off.
     
  20. Madmanmetz

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    It might work out but odds are it won't, not on three players.
     

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