Constitutionaly immigration is a federal issue and not a state or local issue. So you are fine with state governments stepping into the federal purview?
Also in that piece it says: "The only statistically significant relationship worth reporting is a negative association between total violent crime convictions and the illegal immigrant share with a point estimate of ‑0.104 that is significant at the 5 percent level. This exception suggests that a 10 percent increase in the illegal immigrants share of the population is associated with a 1 percent decline in violent crime convictions in our sample of Texas counties." According to that piece having more "illegal immigrants" would actually lead to making things safer.
These two are also dead. They deal with food price inflation through reforming immigration in the agriculture sector.
I posted four 2021/2022 bills that have members of both party's support to reform the broken immigration system in the US. There were pushes to get them done this year but now dead. As usual again, nothing gets done except politicking about immigration. It's a very useful problem for many politicians. The loudest mouthers about these problems don't seem to care about solving them by continuing to elect politicians that make a huge political issue out of them but do nothing to solve them. Just self-righteous complaining (aka virtual signaling).
Both sides put in poison pills that were going to prevent enough people on the other side from supporting the bill to pass it. The Dems put in amnesty for illegal aliens. The Reps put in increased border security and deportations. The parties are fundamentally at odds about what the problems are, so their solutions are not going to match. You cannot please both the "No human is illegal" crowd and the "All illegal aliens are criminals" crowd with the same solution. Since what I am talking about is literally reporting illegal immigrants to the federal authorities and handing them over to ICE, clearly not. Just like a loss prevention officer detaining a shoplifter and calling the police is not a vigilante.
No you cannot. And it’s not the case in any of the 4 bills. It’s this useful political framing that prevent progress for the last 4 decades.
So more people + more total convictions = safer? Just because they are less likely to be convicted per capita? If they weren't here there would be that many less incidents. They have an extra incentive to not be caught, deportation. They also have a very nice escape route to avoid conviction, crossing back over.
The difference is that money spent on Ukraine is well spent. Money spent on the wall is a huge waste.
A loss prevention officer is acting on private property and in the employ of the private owner so that is their purview. They cannot act outside of that narrow purview. A local LEO could certainly inquire about someone’s immigration status but is beyond their jurisdiction to hold someone for immigration unless they have committed a local crime. Unless you’re suggesting that they should be holding people for things beyond their jurisdiction.
I’m just stating what was in the piece that was cited. The poster cited that piece to counter another statistics that “illegal” immigrants committed less crime than other immigrants. That was one part of the piece but it also stated that statistically having a larger percentage of illegal aliens would make a population safer.
Agreed, both sides need to sit down and figure this dam thing out, its not an easy solution but quit politicizing this and get to the root cause
, ur confused, false-equivacating. reminiscent of you lumping Asians and whites as one demographic group, and claiming that Irvine. CA ( w a population of ~40% white, ~40% Asian and ~20% others) is not a diverse city
Just to note the prior Republican led Congress didn't agree to Trump's wall funding either. In fact Nancy Pelosi (then minority leader) offered Trump a deal of Wall Funding for addressing DACA. He refused.
Biden has announced new immigration policy that is tougher and puts in new quotas for immigration from certain countries. https://apnews.com/article/politics-mexico-immigration-af0643a4fb8f45388fe247e44c9b2c5e Biden toughens border, offers legal path for 30,000 a month By COLLEEN LONG, ZEKE MILLER and ELLIOT SPAGAT WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden said Thursday the U.S. would immediately begin turning away Cubans, Haitians and Nicaraguans who cross the border from Mexico illegally, his boldest move yet to confront the arrivals of migrants that have spiraled since he took office two years ago. The new rules expand on an existing effort to stop Venezuelans attempting to enter the U.S., which began in October and led to a dramatic drop in Venezuelans coming to the southern border. Together, they represent a major change to immigration rules that will stand even if the Supreme Court ends a Trump-era public health law that allows U.S. authorities to turn away asylum-seekers. “Do not, do not just show up at the border,” Biden said as he announced the changes, even as he acknowledged the hardships that lead many families to make the dangerous journey north. “Stay where you are and apply legally from there,” he advised. Biden made the announcement just days before a planned visit to El Paso, Texas, on Sunday for his first trip to the southern border as president. From there, he will travel on to Mexico City to meet with North American leaders on Monday and Tuesday. Homeland Security officials said they would begin denying asylum to those who circumvent legal pathways and do not first ask for asylum in the country they traveled through en route to the U.S. Instead, the U.S. will accept 30,000 people per month from the four nations for two years and offer the ability to work legally, as long as they come legally, have eligible sponsors and pass vetting and background checks. Border crossings by migrants from those four nations have risen most sharply, with no easy way to quickly return them to their home countries. “This new process is orderly,” Biden said. “It’s safe and humane, and it works.” The move, while not unexpected, drew swift criticism from asylum and immigration advocates, who have had a rocky relationship with the president. “President Biden correctly recognized today that seeking asylum is a legal right and spoke sympathetically about people fleeing persecution,” said Jonathan Blazer, the American Civil Liberties Union’s director of border strategies. “But the plan he announced further ties his administration to the poisonous anti-immigrant policies of the Trump era instead of restoring fair access to asylum protections.” Even with the health law restrictions in place, the president has seen the numbers of migrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border rise dramatically during his two years in office; there were more than 2.38 million stops during the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, the first time the number topped 2 million. The administration has struggled to clamp down on crossings, reluctant to take hard-line measures that would resemble those of the Trump administration. That’s resulted in relentless criticism from Republicans who say the Democratic president is ineffective on border security, and the newly minted Republican House majority has promised congressional investigations on the matter. The new policy could result in 360,000 people from these four nations lawfully entering the U.S. in a year, a huge number. But far more people from those countries have been attempting to cross into the U.S. on foot, by boat or swimming; migrants from those four countries were stopped 82,286 times in November alone. Enyer Valbuena, a Venezuelan who was living in Tijuana, Mexico, after crossing the border illegally, said Thursday’s announcement came as no surprise but a blow nonetheless. “This was coming. It’s getting more difficult all the time,” he said by text message. Some Venezuelans waiting on Mexico’s border with the U.S. have been talking among themselves if Canada is an option, Valbuena said. He had been waiting for the outcome of the pandemic-related asylum ban before trying to enter the U.S. again and is seeking asylum in Mexico, which offers a much better future than Venezuela. “If it becomes more difficult (to reach the U.S.), the best path is to get papers in Mexico,” said Valbuena, who currently works at a Tijuana factory. Mexico has agreed to accept up to 30,000 migrants each month from the four countries who attempt to walk or swim across the U.S.-Mexico border and are turned back. Normally, these migrants would be returned to their country of origin, but the U.S. can not easily send back people from those four countries for a variety of reasons that include relations with the governments there. Anyone coming to the U.S. is allowed to claim asylum, regardless of how they crossed the border, and migrants seeking a better life in the U.S. often pay smugglers the equivalent of thousands of dollars to deliver them across the dangerous Darien Gap. But the requirements for granting asylum are narrow, and only about 30% of applications are granted. That has created a system in which migrants try to cross between ports of entry and are allowed into the U.S. to wait out their cases. But there is a 2 million-case immigration court backlog, so cases often are not heard for years. The only lasting way to change the system is through Congress, but a bipartisan congressional effort on new immigration laws failed shortly before Republicans took the House majority. “The actions we’re announcing will make things better, but will not fix the border problem completely,” Biden said, in pressing lawmakers to act. Under then-President Donald Trump, the U.S. required asylum seekers to wait across the border in Mexico. But clogs in the immigration system created long delays, leading to fetid, dangerous camps over the border where migrants were forced to wait. That system was ended under Biden, and the migrants who are returned to Mexico under the new rules will not be eligible for asylum. Biden will also triple the number of refugees accepted to the U.S. from the Western Hemisphere, to 20,000 from Latin America and Caribbean, over the next two years. Refugees and asylum-seekers have to meet the same criteria to be allowed into the country, but they arrive through different means. Border officials are also creating an online appointment portal to help reduce wait times at U.S. ports of entry for those coming legally. It will allow people to set up an appointment to come and ask to be allowed into the country. At the U.S.-Mexico border, migrants have been denied a chance to seek asylum 2.5 million times since March 2020 under the Title 42 restrictions, introduced as an emergency health measure by Trump to prevent the spread of COVID-19. But there always has been criticism that the restrictions were used as a pretext by the Republican to seal off the border. Biden moved to end the Title 42 restrictions, and Republicans sued to keep them. The U.S. Supreme Court has kept the rules in place for now. White House officials say they still believe the restrictions should end, but they maintain they can continue to turn away migrants under immigration law. The four nationalities that Biden addressed Thursday now make up the majority of those crossing the border illegally. Cubans, who are leaving the island nation in their largest numbers in six decades, were stopped 34,675 times at the U.S. border with Mexico in November, up 21% from October. Nicaraguans, a large reason why El Paso has become the busiest corridor for illegal crossings, were stopped 34,209 times in November, up 65% from October. But Venezuelans were seen far less at the border after Mexico agreed on Oct. 12 to begin accepting those expelled from the United States. They were stopped 7,931 times, down 64% from October. Venezuelans have said the changes have been difficult, particularly with finding a sponsor who has the financial resources to demonstrate the ability to support them. And even if they find a sponsor, sometimes they delay their arrival because they don’t have the economic resources to pay for the flight to the U.S. For some, the Venezuelan passport that they need has expired, and they cannot afford to pay for the renewal.
