About to start watching this. The commercials have me pretty hyped about the story. Anyone else watching this?
The author is solid. Very much a touchy-feely woman writer, so she is very polarizing in masculine neckbeard world of Science Fiction, but she is really good, if a little too introspective for my tastes. Also, she was a black woman writing science fiction very successfuly in the 70s which is pretty impressive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_E._Butler I saw the trailers and got pretty excited, but decided to hold off for a bit because I have to be in the right sort of mood to enjoy her books and I'm in more of a "mindless entertainment" mood lately.
That's really good feedback @Ottomaton! The commercials make it look like a slick time traveling period piece. If the show is done as well as the commercial sets things up, then I think the series will be really good. RT has it at 85% right now. I have high hopes for this show.
hadn’t heard of this until now just peeped the trailer, and it looks interesting…might give it a watch in the next couple weeks
I prefer Xenogenesis or The Patternmasters This story is a hard read . . . so expect it to be a hard watch This is one of my least favorite stories Rocket River
What is this commercial you speak of? I read the author’s Xenogenesis series and found it very compelling and different. I personally think that’s she was a closet trans or non-binary trying to deal with her feelings and find her identity (much like how you can tell Card is a closet homosexual by his writing).
Uncomfortable. It's kind of a slave narrative She was gay. Honestly - Xenogenesis and some of her other short stories . . . showed me that She does not have a high opinion of humans. Rocket River
Butler being a lesbian wasn’t something that was publicized. The central premise of Xenogensis is introducing a new, third gender which makes make/female contact obsolete and even repugnant. Children aren’t assigned gender at birth. It’s pretty clear IMO. You can infer a lot about an author’s life and personality from reading their work. I’ve stopped reading a few authors because they were going off the rails as they got more and more popular and their books became way too political for my tastes. I’ll admit that I haven’t read anything beyond Xenogensis but it’s three books. https://speculative.sunygeneseoenglish.org/2015/05/01/gender-identity-in-liliths-brood/
Most Definitely It was ok. The series was pretty good. Kindred was just too . .. brutal and one sided and I didn't get the point of it Rocket River
Spoiler Haven't watched the series but the book really shed some light upon slavery I had never even really considered. The way house slaves were considered the better occupation in the sense that you weren't working out in the fields day and night while being forced to sleep in the dirt collectively with other slaves when the day was over. At the same time, it really wasn't better in the sense that the plantation slave owner would frequently commit adultery against his wife and would forcibly rape women slaves working in the house. This not only hurt women slaves but also made the women slaves lives even worse for the mistress of the house. She can't really do much in terms of retaliation towards her husband so she also abuses the slave women stuck working in the house that were forcibly raped against their will. And if that wasn't bad enough, if they got pregnant by their slave owner, those kids were now also the slave owner's property. And in order to appease the mistress he's frequently cheating on by raping house slaves round the clock, he sells off the slave children he helped create for property like jewelry or furniture that is then adorned in the house from which raped slave women were responsible for cleaning and maintaining. They're stuck cleaning property that was acquired from being raped and having their own children forcibly taken away from them for a piano and then are tasked with cleaning it among other property in the house for the duration of their lives while still being frequently raped and risk of impregnation for it to all happen again. That is absolute hell. What I got from it was the idea that a single person can even change a child's life to becoming more tolerant of others and to recognize that slavery is wrong back then is a futile task given how overwhelmingly common and prevalent it was. So to see the descent of an already racist kid in Rufus become a grown man that eventually takes the mold of his father who was the original plantation owner despite the main character's best efforts was eye opening. She saves Rufus life twice which you think would impact a person enough to want to change their ways and he still ends up being a monster of a human being, especially to the main protagonist. And despite that, she still manages to succeed in freeing the slaves that were her ancestors that would eventually many generations down the line procreate and bring her to this world. She got to see ancestors of hers and what they endured back then just for her to be here. I took it as a testament to how resilient not only she was having endured all that in the story, but many generations of her family as well caught up in that hell. As tragic is it all was to read that, I also in a similar vein found a great deal of strength too. It takes a strong strong strong person to be able to endure that kind of hell and live through it. In the past, not necessarily from this board, I've seen people make statements that victims of any kind of abuse are in some sense weak because they "allowed" their abuse to occur, but the story made it abundantly clear there was no allowance of any of it. But it takes an incredible amount of strength to endure pain like that, and still find a way to make a purpose filled life in spite of all those obstacles. I found strength in reading it. It was by no means a happy read, but I never felt like the awful experiences you read in the story were just torture p*rn for the sake of writing graphically violent scenes. They had a purpose.
Man......I binged watched the first 8 episodes and I was hooked and then I find out that there not bringing it back..............holy moly, talk about being disappointed!! Guess I will read the book, I love the premise and I have to figure out what happened to Kevin, him at the end of the last episode didn't make much sense. Talk about a letdown..............next time I binge I am going to make sure it doesn't get axed.
