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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    All of his win share stats, bpm stats, vorp stats were better then any kpj season
     
  2. AlperenSengun

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    I would say it is all on Silas, if I had to make a sentence like that.

    I don't think he needs to be benched necessarily but using the 35 minutes he has at the pg in other ways would be better for everyone. It could be for Tyty, Green, Sengun etc. But most importantly it would be for KPJ because he would be in a role that he actually has a chance to improve drastically.
     
  3. Verbal Christ

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    Do you think starting 70 games that year had anything to do with that?
     
  4. Verbal Christ

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    Thats fair.
     
  5. maypk

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    First of all I'll take that as a compliment since you couldn't figure out that English is not my native language and in fact it's my 3rd language so thank you. Secondly, i don't need to "ridicule or insult" you since you are doing a great job embarrasing yourself. I'm just chilling here and having fun with you :)
     
  6. astrosrule

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    win shares and vorp ya, WS/48 and BPM no. Billups wasn't anything great that year, but all the numbers are still better then any of the 4 kpj seasons. By TS+ he was also better then any of the 4 KPJ seasons, KPJ efficiency peak was as a rookie with a 95 TS+
     
  7. Verbal Christ

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    You are nobody here whom I value enough to take the time with. Learn English better if you want to be an aggressive pundit. Use spell check too as it would inflate your "wisdom" when claiming how smart you are -- its OK to edit especially when trying to convince people you're above them intellectually.
     
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  8. AlperenSengun

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    And I sincerely believe that he is in the worst atmosphere to thrive. He is playing with a bad coach, no vet presence and given complete freedom and kind of leadership without earning it and in a position that is not fit for his skillset. In every department he needs the complete opposite of these. But I can't just say he is fine because of that.

    So without a coach change, I don't think we'll see major improvement. But still I think it is the best interest of everyone, including KPJ, to put down his minutes and use them at a different/limited role.
     
  9. Verbal Christ

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    Ok so the advanced stats are what is important and not the counting stats. Got it.
     
  10. maypk

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    A clown who can't speak a single foreign language believes he's intellectually better than the dude who can speak 2 foreign languages. And trying to prove it by the depth of vocabulary he has in his native language. LMFAO.

    Why do all kpj stans have to be so dumb?
     
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  11. Verbal Christ

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    If you are saying Sengun should get more minutes I agree. If you are saying Jabari should be more of a cog in the offense I agree. If you are saying KPJ should play off ball more I agree. If you are saying TyTy should see more PT I agree. These are all facets of team building. As they continue to build comradery and chemistry on the court these 'issues' should self alleviate. If we had a different coach the philosophy could be different. There are just so many variables and moving parts to the dynamic of this team that just laying it at the feet of one player is illogical. This team would still lose a ton of games with KPJ out of the picture. Should efficiency not be expected to rise for a team this young with more experience?
     
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  12. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Let's keep this topic focused on basketball please.
     
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  13. Verbal Christ

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    See you continue to make assumptions about a person you dont know. I dont need to preface any comment about my education or ability to speak other languages. YOU need that to validate your life. Its sad. You've taken a basketball discussion and turned into an opportunity to gloat and defame, but since we've gotten to the ugly portion of the exchange --- PELAME LA VERGA CABRON! ;)
     
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    Whatever helps you sleep at night. ;)
     
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    Hoping KPJ will see a future for himself with the Rockets that’s not tied to him being the point guard, because he could be so valuable to the team in a different role.

    let’s take Tyrese Maxey. He’s a combo guard who started playing point last year. He hasn’t a ton this year cause he’s been hurt. But we are talking about a guy with a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio last year.

    I think that’s what I’m looking for. At least 3:1 or something like that.
     
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    I agree totally with this. He has the potential to be an elite 3&D roaming type wing. Good news is that if he doesn't see / accept that, Stone was smart enough to have him sign one of the most trade friendly contracts ever where we can literally trade him to another team to the tune of $16M and they can then cut him without losing a single penny if they so choose.
     
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    Yes I say those things and sure this team would still lose a lot of games if you use kpj as a scorer mainly with about 20-25 minutes and hold him accountable for his defense and have a veteran pg. Maybe a couple more wins. But it will result all the players developing better in my opinion and will give them room to try things that they cannot do now. As I said before, without a new coach any change now will have a minor effect overall though.

    It is certainly not only on KPJ that the team is losing games. After the coach he is getting the most criticism because he is definitely making the most bone-headed plays, his minutes does not match what he does on the court, he is not a willing defender or passer, his body language is not good, he keeps taking the same difficult shots. I am particularly very low on kpj because of these, not the efficiency part. He could really fix efficiency very quickly, but not the others.

    And there are posters trying to prove that he has a future at the pg position and this is in line with today's league and try to justify that by some raw stats which show nothing more than heavy usage of a low efficiency player, with few playmaking skills and high turnover rate. This last part fuels the discussion a lot.

    I would fire Silas yesterday, get a pg and give KPJ a clean sheet right away. But the posters trying to justify the current situation with kpj (and not being able to do it) are just ridiculous.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    The NBA stat only freaks do have an issue with projecting young guards. They never get them right.
     
  19. Carpe82

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    Silas is a terrible coach. He only knows to run an offense through the PG. If Nix were our starting PG, I'm sure he will be taking more than 15 shots per night (just like KPJ is doing but even with less efficiency) and having the ball in his hands all that time that KPJ is having it. Because is not a matter of who is the PG, the thing is this coach thinks there's no other way to play. Or even worse, he just don't know how to do it. Silas has no idea on how to make plays for off ball players. When he had Doncic, he was fine, but now he has KPJ his offense is terrible. And the thing is he is not able to adjust anything. Same static, heliocentric, boring, ugly **** every ****ing night. But yeah, in this case, the main character of this cheap movie is not important at all. Is just the job is too big for him. But it is such a shame when you got so many others talented performers and you just don't know how to use them properly
     
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  20. astrosrule

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    Ya of course, we are smarter in 2022 then we were in 1998. We know what actually drives winning
     

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