KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

That’s my main beef with KPJ. If he turns over the ball at a high rate but can make up for it by contributing in other areas, I would be less critical. But he’s not good at other areas either. Some praise his defense. But he only plays defense when he feels like it, and it rarely happens…

 

lmao. He's nowhere near those numbers without opposing teams even focus on him on defense. All those elite players you ridiculously are mentioning posting those much better numbers while all the opposing teams build their defensive schemes just to stop those guys every single night for years.

 

Who's comparing? If you dont have an adequate answer why not just keep the snark? Some of you guys just seem to enjoy the bashing more than actually thinking of ways on how these guys can improve.

 

Obviously you are comparing. And if you want KPJ to improve, move him to the bench and let him know he's not the leader of this team.

 

It might be doable, but the precedence for being as awful as kpj has been going on his 4th year is basically non existent. The only example really brought up has been billups. Billups became very good in his 5th season, though even as a rookie was better then any kpj season

 

So simple! Its a question why this team isnt winning 50 games a year - its all on KPJ! Just move him to the bench and "tell him he isnt the leader" LMAO --- who is the leader? Sengun? You guys are really good for a chuckle every now and again.

 

The solution is really simple. Play more off ball. His turnovers will be less, efficiency will go up.

As for his FT%, who knows. It always puzzles me why he’s such a bad FT shooter.

 

@Verbal Christ

KPJ being a more efficient scorer in two years is entirely possible. But what level are we talking about? Harden or Luka level is almost impossible. His starting point is worse and you don't see the consistent improvement in the first years. And being efficient requires high basketball iq, being able to choose correct shots. I don't see it either with KPJ. I don't think he is in the same talent class either.

More likely he can be 56-58% ts guard. Which is good but still would not good enough if he has nothing else to offer, like very good defense or very good playmaking with few turnovers etc. The late bloomers in terms of shooting are typically good at some other thing and get to concentrate on their shooting later in their careers. That's why they keep getting their minutes and have the room to be a late bloomer. But kpj is not good at anything enough to justify his minutes. Scoring is the only thing he is focusing on and he is not good at that.

So why would we give him 35 minutes a game with the hope that he will be a late bloomer? It is not a totally give-up vs give him 35 minutes a game though. We can give him less minutes, less of a role and when he fills out that role, he can play more. And actually he will learn that he needs to improve on many things to get the extended role. Right now, the extended role is magically given to him with no actual on-court production, and it is doing no good to anybody.

 

Im not holding KPJ to the standard of any 'great' .. I would just like him to be as good a player as possible for THIS team in unison with the surrounding talent. As of late the games these guys are playing are more palatable and KPJ has been a part of that. The hope should be for continued growth as a team.

Billups rookie year: 11.2 points/3.9 assists/2.4 rebounds/2.2 turnovers/ --- 37/33/85 shooting splits. .516 TS --- you really going to say that year was "better than KPJ season" ???

 

I only looked at the basketballreference stats which were all better, would need to look at TS+ and stuff

 

So you genuinely believe KPJ should be the leader of this team? LMFAO. Just get lost.

 

have we moved francis to the two yet?

 

Yeah let's compare rookie season stats of Billups to 4th year stats of KPJ because why not? Even in his rookie year, Billups has way better Ast/TO ratio than KPJ in his 4th tho. LMAO.

 

No. Its not fair to use the best players in todays game or even in the past as a barometer of what we should want or expect from THIS player. Its not realistic and its an argument in bad faith. Who doesnt want a Luka level player on their team? How many of those guys exist? Did KPJ not help secure wins vs Philly and MIL with defense? How can you say he's not good at anything with a straight face? Because you dont like the aesthetic of his game or because the stat sheet says that he is a finished player today? If the guy would finish better around the rim and stop turning the ball over his stat card wouldnt look so ugly, but then it would just turn into a fan preference of what this team should look like. Erratic and inconsistent is what best sums up his play thus far and it applies to most of the team even for Sengun who has been a professional since the age of 15.

 

The guy said that Billups rookie year was better than any KPJ season - why are you so dense?

 

Did I say he was the leader of this team? "Genuinely" you show up a few months ago and are now an analytical, team building savant? You think too highly of yourself - you're not that smart.

 

Do you want to rephrase your thought? Clearly Billups rookie year was not better than "any" season KPJ has had thus far.

 

I'm not a kpj stan so i'm pretty sure i'm smarter than you.

 

Unlikely. Your limited vocabulary and need to ridicule and insult shows an insecure person trying to find acceptance within a polarizing topic hardly ever opining with moderate takes. If you have nothing constructive to add just sit on your hands in the corner while the adults are talking.

 

You are assuming I have bad faith. I am not using harden or luka as a barometer. I was just looking at the spectrum of players and started from the top, and eliminated that as a possible scenario. As I said, I am seeing 56-58% ts as a possible, optimistic scenario, in which case he need to offer something other than shooting. And his current performance does not warrant the minutes he is given. So I would hope the optimistic scenario will be reality but I would reduce his minutes now and hope to see improvement in both scoring efficiency and other parts of his game.