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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Verbal Christ

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    Is Jalen an efficient scorer?
     
  2. AlperenSengun

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    It usually does not come to that and there was also this myth that he is a very good defender, rooting from his one on one defense is decent at times when he decides to put in the effort.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Not yet. Though in his rookie seasons he showed signs that he can. A 20 year old for half a season having a 59% ts on mostly high volume self created shots means he probably can do it again

    The road home discrepancy and the oddness of his current jump shot is hurting him now. But we'll see what he is by the end of the season. And we are still going to give him more than 2 seasons to become efficient.
     
  4. harold bingo

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    No, he isn't. And if he doesn't improve drastically in that area over the coming years then we'll likely need to move on from him.
     
  5. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    He is certainly more efficient than KPJ. If we get 100 shots a game, I absolutely want Green taking them instead of KPJ.
     
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  6. Verbal Christ

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    Right, but there is no substitute for game experience. KPJs own issues stifled his early years nobody is claiming otherwise. Its not surprise that two young players in the same range of games played happen to be close in relevant stats. Neatly wrapping an efficiency bow on either of these guys isnt going to fly so then if Jalen doesn't improve his efficiency then he's to be discarded too? Is that the gist of wanting 12 uber efficient players on every team?
     
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    Yes. There always has to be 4-5 teams considered the worst teams in the league. And that’s who generally employs the high volume, low efficiency guys.
     
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  8. Verbal Christ

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    LMAO .528 vs .534
     
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    Show me a volume scorer with poor efficiency relative to league average and I'll show you a loser.
     
  10. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Taking the jiggly route for statistic interpretation now, are we?
     
  11. jordnnnn

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    If Jalen Green is still hovering around 53-54 TS% when his extension time is coming up he will have been an extreme bust of a pick and someone we should strongly consider not extending at any price.
     
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    Yes, Seriously!!! I've noticed that. You can tell by their post, the level of their intellect.
     
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  13. Verbal Christ

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    Right and what would you guess the age ranges of these hyper efficient teams are in comparison to the terribly inefficient ones are? Its wild to just throw out "we need to be more efficient in order to win games" and then not take the time to capture the context of the reality of this situation. Which one of our players is in their "prime"?
     
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  14. Verbal Christ

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    Crazy talk. Jalen could miss all of his shots on any game and I wouldnt think twice about letting him have the final shot. You cant use a stat card to dictate game theory and situational moments.
     
  15. Verbal Christ

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    What is missing??? One guy has a TS of .528 THIS SEASON and one has .534 ... do the math for me on how many "made shots" the .006 accounts for! LOL
     
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    That wouldn't be extreme bust. That would just be moderately disappointing and it's contextual.


    If he is at 54% ts in year 4 but drastically improves his playmaking and defense then it's still great.
     
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    I don’t understand the zero sum game on KPJ. His steadfast supporters don’t seem to be willing to acknowledge that his assist to turnover ratio is just not appropriate for a starting point guard. And when that is raised people say you’re hating on KPJ. When in reality many of us just want to see him used differently. Most rockets fans (I hope) think he’s a really good player. I certainly do.

    I don’t think u are a hater if you point out that he’s not a good point guard…because he’s freaking not. But he is a good player.

    clearly a very advanced concept for many fans to grasp. Too bad it has to devolve into some heated debate where folks are accused of just hating on KPJ. That’s really not the case for most of us.

    rocket fan on rocket fan crime is stupid.
     
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    That's really the problem with kpj. He does not have any strong area where he can give consistent production.
     
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    Sorry but yall are crazy on this one lol. 52.8% and 53.4% are basically identical. Neither are good. This is a negligible difference. 2-3% is a pretty big bump, 0.6% is not.
     
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  20. Verbal Christ

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    If he's scoring 30 a night you would be crazy to move on from him at that point in time, but I might agree that 400 games started should be a good enough sample size to make these assumptions.
     

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