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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Let’s start with the obvious one, scoring.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    To listen to most of these morons in here you'd think KPJ was 35 and a 15 year vet.

    That's why I say there's very little reason to engage with them. They are 100% narrative driven and they aren't the best or brightest even the GARM has to offer.

    This thread is for comedy purposes only.
     
  3. Verbal Christ

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    How convenient!!!! LOLL talk about surface level thinking. Lets isolate Jalens BEST ability and then use it as a diminishing factor for Scooter! You guys are a riot! Go take another look at Jalens stats between years and then huddle up with your efficiency buddies and determine how to spin it!
     
  4. chenjy9

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    Higher TS%, much lower TOV%. Next!
     
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  5. Verbal Christ

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    I've been enjoying the ride. Most of the time its such fluff material that it doesnt even deserve a mention, but I woke up with extra energy today! :D
     
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  6. harold bingo

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    Are you under the impression that Kobe Bryant was sub league average? Is that what this is supposed to mean?
     
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  7. Verbal Christ

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    Whos making a comparison? Stop conflating! The statement is not accurate.
     
  8. chenjy9

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    What a dumb response considering that scoring is also supposed to be Scoots best ability.
     
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  9. Verbal Christ

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    He's definitely not an efficiency darling. You saying that volume scorers are not valuable is pretty dumb.
     
  10. maypk

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    I'm pretty sure he's trolling. Nobody can't be dumb enough to compare KPJ to Kobe.
     
  11. AlperenSengun

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    Also KPJ logged about 2000 minutes more(about 60%) and 2 more years in the nba atmosphere. Let's not act as if that does not matter at all.

    In terms of the minutes played after they reached proper nba strength, Green is way behind than KPJ as well.

    Also everything is catered to KPJ, like finding a pnr partner who he can lob to, because he can't do other passes, not particularly good at lobbing either.

    And I also recall arguments that KPJ was defended by the best player of the opposing team. Why do we not see those any more?

    His only really consistently good stat, catch and shoot 3s also is down to 40.9% on less attempts.
     
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    I'll give you the fact that it was a simple mistake on your part, rather than you not knowing, at least I hope so. However, I'll answer your question and if you want to hold a conversation, you have to answer mine, as well.

    The 76ers are not going after KPJ because he's not on the trading block but also, they have James Harden and they will not be a good fit. Also, the 76ers are an experienced team and KPJ is younger and still learning.

    Now, I'll ask you again, "How long has KPJ been playing PG?"
     
  13. Verbal Christ

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    LOLLLL so KPJ has not increased his scoring volume ALL FOUR YEARS himself? Cmon man you can hate better. Try again.
     
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    No, it's not dumb. I said volume scorers ON SUB LEAGUE AVERAGE EFFICIENCY are not valuable. Kobe Bryant was well over league average efficiency. I don't care if you think he's a darling or not. If you think Kobe was an inefficient scorer then you don't understand efficiency.
     
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    Games started is only a portion of the story though. Boiling it down to a 20 games difference in starts is an extreme oversimplification. Off-seasons and years with access to NBA level coaching, training, practice, doctors, film study. Going against NBA level competition. At the ages they are at, the 2 year difference is huge as far as body development goes. By 22 Green should look like a much different player physically.
     
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    I love how we all talk about KPJ's lack of playmaking skills, decision making, efficiency, TO% and so on but completely overlook the fact that he's also a horrible defensive player.
     
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    It's his 3rd year. Have you seen him developed anything from his 1st year?
     
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    Also NBA development can be summed up with a logarithmic regression fit. That means the experience difference between a 20 year old second year player and a 22 year old 4th year player is much larger than a 28 year old 9 year player and a 30 year old 11 year player.


    Green is in the most rapid stage of NBa development (19-22)
     
  19. Verbal Christ

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    Volume scorers will ALWAYS have a place in the league regardless of efficiency. The game is about getting buckets. You guys want superstar all time players filling these spots and are just b****ing and moaning for nothing.
     
  20. chenjy9

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    Wow, an even dumber response LOL. ANYONE can increase their scoring volume by jacking up more shots. That's actually the problem with KPJ. He increased his volume without improving his efficiency. When you are as inefficient at scoring as KPJ and you increase your scoring volume, all you are doing is hurting your team more. KPJ taking more shots, means his betters in scoring (Green, Jabari, Sengun, Ego) are taking less shots.
     
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