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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

    34 vote(s)
    57.6%
  2. Twitter

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Rupar has a substack where he posted a screen shot that showed he was permanently banned and there was no explanation given.

    Musk did indicate last night that the ban would be temporary (probably not more than 7 days) and Twitter will work on being more transparent on giving explanation for why a particular account is suspended.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    And traditionally who are the type of people in "power"?

    Land owners, capitalists etc or leftists and laborers?

    The very nature of the ideological divide means that the right is going to be disproportionately backed by those in power due to those in power understanding the end goal of each ideology. The right wants to maintain traditional hierarchies which usually means land owners, capital owners etc are still at the top. Leftists don't believe in traditional hierarchies and if things go real south they know what's going to happen to them and their property which is having their property forcibly seized by angry mobs.
     
  3. Xopher

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    I know you aren't this dense. I don't care if he suspends people for whatever reason. I do care when he is suspending people, yet screaming he is a free speech absolutist.
     
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  4. Amiga

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    ahole have free speech

    Justices Rule for Protesters at Military Funerals
    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/us/03scotus.html
     
  5. durvasa

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    They posted a link to a page in which that real time flight information could be found. Whether they did so with the intent of helping people who were interested in following Musk's location, I can't say, but that's what appears to have happened. And that's the violation.

    Musk has been taking steps to making his aircraft details private. Clearly, it's not something he wants others to know about.

    Elon Musk turns to free FAA program to avoid being publicly tracked on Twitter. Fails (interestingengineering.com)

    Sweeney used his sleuthing skills to track down the details anyway and post the tracker.


    What is FAA's PIA program?
    Back in 2019, the FAA introduced its privacy ICAO aircraft address (PIA) program that allows aircraft owners to apply for temporary aircraft registration numbers which are not attached to any other plane, allowing flyers to fly anonymously.

    According to Business Insider's report, the PIA program does not involve a payment fee to get a temporary ICAO address but surely requires a ton of paperwork to be completed. The registration can be changed every 60 days.

    It appears that Musk took the paperwork option out of the situation and changed the ICAO aircraft for his private jet. His aircraft also appears on the FAA's Limited Aircraft Data Displayed (LADD) program. However, both these programs can help against sites that use FAA's data to track airplanes. Since Sweeney uses ADS-B data, it was relatively easy to spot him again.

    Sweeney told Business Insider that there were only a limited number of Gulfstream jets sold and even a smaller number that would fly out of Brownsville, Texas, and frequent the same airports that Musk does.

    Just because it is possible, with a bit of ingenuity, to uncover personal details about someone from public information, that doesn't mean it's OK. Suppose I used snippets of information about a member on this forum to track down their actual name and home address and I posted it here. All from public sources! Should that be allowed?
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm not claiming he is consistent or 100 % stable at all, lol. But it's entertaining, and the world needed a counterbalance in the (social) media landscape.
     
  7. Xopher

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    There is a huge difference between posting real time data showing Elon is in a car, driving down I-10 and updating it real time, than posting a plane which Musk may or may not be on.
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    Define what you mean by "counterbalance".
     
  9. Xopher

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    I suppose Truth Social, Parler, and 4chan aren't counterbalances
     
  10. durvasa

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    Well, presumably the only reason Sweeney is posting about that plane is because of the high probability that Musk would be on it. So I don't see that as being a real distinction.
     
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    Who uses that crap...

    Reality is, about half of the population is conservative. But most of the mainstream media and social media has been controlled by the Left.

    Truth Social, Parler, Getter seem to be more for the fringe right, not for the half of the population who are just conservative.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    It's so hilarious you think media companies especially those owned by massive amoral publicly traded bohemoths have any ideology besides maximizing return on investment.

    If you were a moderate as you've claimed multiple times, then your vigorous nature of finding bias in powerful institutions would spread beyond just "media". Have you ever called out the at least 75+% of our law enforcement apparatus being heavily skewed towards right wing and conservative ideology? You know the dudes with guns that have the most leeway on the use of force in our country?

    Do you ever care about that?
     
  14. Xopher

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    How about drilling down on which percentage of conservatives use social media vs. liberals.
     
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    would be interesting
     
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    half the population is not conservative

    republicans post hateful nonsense all day and then cry about being “censored”…make it make sense
     
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    In hindsight, Elon should've bought Parler and Truth Social (and merged them) for next to nothing and then found a way to make peace with Apple and Google to get it on the app store. Implement the minimum amount of moderation required to stay on the app store and then just build the right wing version of TWTR for a fraction of the cost. Plus, there were no journalists (or left wing personalities) on either of those, so Elon would only have a user base that worshipped him.
     
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  19. durvasa

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    Not sure I fully agree with this, but anyway:



    Yes, don’t govern according to whims. Have clearly stated rules in place and enforce them, but with transparency. I’m on the fence regarding the new policies against doxxing and what counts as legitimate journalism in this area.
     
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  20. Astrodome

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    One issue that both sides have predominantly condemned on this site has been doxxing.
     

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