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[SI] World Series Commemorative Issue -- All-Time Team

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Dec 14, 2022.

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  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    A few VERY notable surprises... in the Sports Illustrated World Series Commemorative issue on who should be on the Astros all-time team...
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    #1 lnchan, Dec 14, 2022
  2. Radricky

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    Add Moises Alou and Springer to the outfield.
     
    #2 Radricky, Dec 14, 2022
  3. chievous minniefield

    chievous minniefield Contributing Member

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    Craig Biggio was great for a long time, but there’s no way Jose Altuve isn’t at 2B.

    Altuve eclipsed Biggio at some point. Biggio never won MVP. Biggio never won two World Series.
     
    #3 chievous minniefield, Dec 14, 2022
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  4. donkeypunch

    donkeypunch Contributing Member

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    Im moving Biggio to catcher and adding Altuve.
     
    #4 donkeypunch, Dec 14, 2022
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    Alan Ashby should be catcher.
    Altuve should be 2nd.
    Can't argue with any others unless you want to say Berkman is an outfielder in which case he might get close to overtaking Wynn I guess.
     
    #5 panamamyers, Dec 14, 2022
  6. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    JR Richard is only 8th in all time franchise pitcher WAR. Berkman is 5th in batter WAR... ahead of Wynn. If utility spot, Biggio belongs there, but Altuve has surpassed him as a 2B.
     
    #6 lnchan, Dec 14, 2022
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  7. CinematicFusion

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    Toy canon better then Fat Elvis?
     
    #7 CinematicFusion, Dec 14, 2022
  8. RKREBORN

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    As much as I love Altuve, Biggio was the first Astro in the Hall of Fame and deserves 2B until Jose gets there.
     
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  9. Yordan The Great

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    LF Berkman
    CF Cedeno
    RF Puhl

    3B Bregman
    SS Correa
    2B Altuve
    1B Bagwell
    C Wynn

    SP Ryan
    SP Verlander
    SP Oswalt
    SP Richard
    SP Niekro

    RP Smith
    RP Wagner
    RP Lidge
    RP Sambito
    RP Pressly

    The problem with Springer is he was both RF and CF for us. In center he certainly can't surpass probably the gifted baseball player to ever step on the field for the Astros, Cesar Cedeno.

    God I hate leaving Jose Cruz off but by a hair I give the nod to Sir Lancelot.

    Biggio at second is easily arguable, but the 2 championships and the MVP is too much to overcome, even if he's only 2/3 of the way to where Biggio ended up.

    Verlander gets in over Dierker because his essentially 3 full seasons worth of work was as elite as it gets, and then there's the 2 championships he was instrumental in helping us win.
     
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    Yeah, just go ahead and make Jimmy Wynn play catcher, how hard can it be.
     
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    I have a problem ignoring the seasons because of performance in the post season. Most of Astros history has ended in the regular season. Sure, use it as a tie breaker. But not the primary component of the rankings.
     
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  12. lnchan

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    No Bench but the full pitching staff?
     
    #12 lnchan, Dec 15, 2022
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    C Ashby
    1b Bagwell
    2b Altuve
    3b Bregman
    SS Correa
    LF Cruz
    CF Cedeno
    RF Wynn
    DH Berkman

    Biggio
    Puhl
    Watson
    Doran

    SP Oswalt
    SP Niekro
    SP Dierker
    SP Ryan
    SP Scott

    LR Wilson
    LR Forsch
    RP Wagner
    RP Sambito
    RP Smith
    RP Lidge
    RP Pressly
    RP Harris
     
    #13 IdStrosfan, Dec 15, 2022
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    C - Biggio
    1B - Bagwell
    2B - Altuve
    3B - Bregman
    SS - Correa
    RF - Wynn
    CF - Cedeno
    LF - Cruz
    DH - Bregman

    Thats basically the starters based on WAR. Biggio leads WAR at C & 2B, so I don't mind listing him at C.
     
    #14 juicystream, Dec 15, 2022
  15. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    We seem to have a really good franchise tradition with strong second basemen...
    • Joe Morgan
    • Billy Doran
    • Craig Biggio
    • Jeff Kent
    • Kaz Matsui
    • Jose Altuve
     
    #15 lnchan, Dec 15, 2022
  16. IdStrosfan

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    It started with Nellie Fox.
     
    #16 IdStrosfan, Dec 15, 2022
  17. IdStrosfan

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    But Kaz Matsui?
     
    #17 IdStrosfan, Dec 15, 2022
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  18. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    #18 lnchan, Dec 15, 2022
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    Delete. Punch. Beaten to.
     
    #19 studogg, Dec 15, 2022
  20. evilhomer

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    Stop talking about Kaz Matsui and his butt...who knows if it ever recovered...
     
    #20 evilhomer, Dec 16, 2022
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