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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Believe It!

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    So with all your knowledge on the game, you think it's smart not to get the hot hand the ball? I guess if it means the guards can continue to jack 3's even when missing (3-15 for 20%). That's some real leadership and a GRRREAT take.

    BTW the ONLY team thats shut him down is the one "led" by your "combo" guard. When his shots are dropping like they have over the last 10 games @ 48% from deep, no defender has shut him down. Exactly why he should get more shots.

    For the sake of the team I sure hope Jalen does not feel the same way you do, because Bari is by far the closest thing on this roster to a future all star running mate for him. Followed possibly by Sengun and Tari.
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    He is definitely a Rocket's hater that is widely known on this board and has been commented on since he took over the Rockets beat on ESPN.

    He is also fishing for clicks, and he probably reads these boards and knows it's a heated topic of discussion.

    With that said it really does not matter whatever he says because he not some basketball expert so what he thinks about players is in no way relevant, even Lowe who is supposed to be a Rockets hater pushed back on him going in on KPJ and said what the KPJ "lovers" have said he sees enough promise and good things in KPJ to think he can be a good NBA player.
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    Why are you comparing these 3 guys?

    What does that have to do with anything, and what does a 10 game sample size supposed to prove?

    I am more than willing to wait and see if what his final numbers are, I am just not willing to celebrate because he made 4-5 shots in a random game.

    Ok you left that there but what do you think that is saying?
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    Edit.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    I mean team winning is cool and all but we used a 3rd pick to get Jabari so his development should also be prioritized. He definitely should not be taking only 2 shots a game lol.
     
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    He's referring to a specific technical ft where Green was about to step up to the stripe and KPJ waived him off. Are you saying KPJ was relaying that order from a coach?


    If that's the case, that still makes no sense. Green is a career 80% ft shooter and KPJ is a career 70% ft shooters. Why would a coach tell KPJ to take it unless it was some type of thing to get KPJ in a rhythm of something?
     
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  7. jiggyfly

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    I think that's on Bari?

    WTF are you talking about?

    My only point is going 4-5 is not something to be celebrating, and it's certainly not something to say he has turned any kind of corner.

    They blew the Suns out and you in here talking about Green and KPJ should have passed to him more?

    Some people priorities are all out of wack.
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Ok I was wrong.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    I mean he actually has turned the corner the past month or so.

    I'm not going to be frustrated though if for one game he had 5 attempts in a win. I'd be more worried if this consistently happens where he only gets like 5 attempts.
     
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    Turned the corner to what?
     
  11. chenjy9

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    Jalen already mentioned wanting to see the ball be run through Sengun more
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    His last few weeks have been really efficient and has shown his defensive potential such as against Giannis.

    I mean there is a reason why neutral NBA analysts have shot him up in the rookie rankings the past weeks.
     
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    Ok, I still don't see how that is turning a corner, he has been able to do that since day 1.

    It's like we are talking about a 2nd round pick we are talking about a guy who was the 3rd pick in the draft we are supposed to be thinking franchise changing type of player, but we are ecstatic that he shot 4-5?

    Do people realize we might never pick this high again?
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    The Rockets can't bench him without playing a worse player. Holding a player accountable by playing a worse player only shows the the coach/front office are jerks by holding a player responsible for things outside his control. He has the skills to do great things, but has not found a way to do them without making a lot of mistakes. While I understand KPJ can't change that the Rockets don't have someone better than him as a PG, it is still very frustrating to watch him as a PG. I don't see running everything through Sengun (or Green) as a cure-all.

    What would KPJ have to do for you not to be fine with how he is developing? Be 35? Lead the NBA in turnovers by even more? Other than defense (when he isn't sulking), he does not appear to be improving that much to me. His teammates (i.e., lineups he's in mostly) have been much more efficient scoring as a whole the past 10 games, and he's still the same or maybe worse.

    I think Rockets had hoped he would actually develop, but right now he looks like a placeholder to me unless he has significant improvement either in scoring or improving passing. The Rockets likely want their future PG to be high usage like KPJ, but that he can be efficient in either scoring or passing unlike KPJ. Unless things drastically change (i.e., abnormal improvement in KPJ that isn't typical of a 22 year old), I expect to be frustrated by KPJ and you'll keep defending him until the Rockets get a better playmaker. I hope I'm wrong as it would be really great if KPJ actually developed.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Good news for you. The most prominent rookie ladder ranking has him 3rd behind Paulo and Mathurin.


    Also what Bari was able to do defending Giannis last game alone makes him a lottery level pick let alone his shooting potential.
     
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    You have serious reading comprehension difficulties, you don't even know context what you are responding to.
     
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  17. jiggyfly

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    You might want to reread the thread I already admitted to being wrong.

    But hey if rage posting make you feel better go ahead.
     
  18. flamingdts

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    I am not sure if you realize this, but practically every single one of your posts, across any topic, is unnecessarily hostile and usually uninformed (as is the case here). I don't think I have ever seen a post of yours that isn't picking some sort of online quarrel with someone else.

    And I don't really enjoy making these off-topic comments, but you stick out like a sore thumb on any thread. Maybe take your own advice I guess?
     
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  19. jiggyfly

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    So my posts are like 80% of the post on here?

    You probably don't even read 40% of what I post, I can't help if you are sensitive to the way I post, that's a you problem.

    I don't care if I stick out like a sore thumb, I post what I think about a topic and I don't care if that makes people feel some kind of way, I don't mind having a back and forth and if I am wrong I don't have a problem admitting it.

    This entire thread about KPJ is unnecessarily hostile and uninformed, so I guess I fit right in?

    I mean, the topic at hand is because he shot technical FT, and now you all feel some kind of way, seriously?
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    LOL.

    That was the team defending Giannis, it was not liked he just locked him down by himself they took away his driving lanes.

    The most prominent rookie ladder?

    What's makes it the most prominent, and why does that matter when most of the rookies have been underwhelming?

    I have no idea why anybody that's not fully on the Jabari is going to be a star train, makes you all get in your feelings, I'm sorry I wanted a franchise changing player and I will disappointed if we just get a non-all star type guy.

    This is not Jabari's fault, but that does not mean I have to gushing about efficiency just because a guy shot 4-5. In a blowout.

    To be brief I am not impressed by how a rookie is ranked on some ladder I am more worried about if he will be a guy who can be a franchise type of guy.
     

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