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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1730/rr-2

    Since children are at less risk from coronavirus than influenza (1) and pose no risk to others (2), covering their faces not only risks damage to the developing brain from hypoxia (3), inhibits excretion of carbon dioxide leading to respiratory acidosis (4), forces them to inhale accumulated bacteria and fungi (5), and promotes headaches, dermatitis (6), and tooth decay (7), but it clearly worsens rather than protects their state of health (8).

    Not only is physical health harmed but also the psychological and emotional development of the child is inevitably affected by inhibiting normal communication via speech and facial expression (9), risking mental health problems and underdeveloped social skills, including empathy (10).

    Those individuals who mandate or enforce such irrational and harmful policies are guilty of nothing less than Institutional Child Abuse. Anyone in a position of responsibility is legally obliged to prevent harm to those in their care and failure to do so represents a dereliction of duty (11).

    So, when is the Medical Profession going to speak out and take action to prevent harm to child patients?

    In the absence of medical ethics, let us hope that parents can find the courage to protect their offspring from those who continue to undermine the younger generation by means of reckless and unjustifiable policies.

    Failure to do so renders the future a very bleak place indeed.

    (1) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00066-3/fulltext
    (2) https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618
    (3) https://rense.com/general96/Masks-Risks-Part3.pdf
    (3) https://www.sott.net/article/442455-German-Neurologist-Warns-Against-Wea...
    (4) https://rense.com/general96/Masks-Risks-Part3.pdf
    (5) https://rationalground.com/dangerous-pathogens-found-on-childrens-face-m...
    (6) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33814358/
    (7) https://fineartsdentistry.com/how-face-masks-are-affecting-oral-health-d...
    (8) https://principia-scientific.com/study-most-children-harmed-mentally-phy...
    (9) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7417296/
    (10) https://www.aier.org/article/masking-children-tragic-unscientific-and-da...
    (11) https://www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/pro...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/14/masking-school-children-is-abuse/
    https://nypost.com/2021/09/18/making-kids-under-6-mask-isnt-science-its-child-abuse/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...orced-masking-children-plain-child-abuse.html
    https://www.conwaydailysun.com/opin...cle_657688f6-e0d6-11eb-bfaf-afaa5b88e834.html
    https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/we-must-call-it-what-it-ischild-abuse/
    https://www.theprimod.com/post/forcing-children-to-wear-face-masks-is-child-abuse
    https://www.city-journal.org/masking-children-unnecessary-and-harmful
    https://healthpolicy.usc.edu/article/mandatory-masking-of-school-children-is-a-bad-idea/
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/h...-wearing-harmed-their-kids-school-experience/

    Etc.

    Now STFU and spare yourself the fake "my mind is not made up" routine.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think it's healthy to have a debate on whether kids should wear masks during outbreaks or epidemics as a temporary measure. I don't think it's useful to make sweeping statements that the it's political and child abuse.
     
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    I just re-read the thread a little bit. This here was, among many dumb posts, by far the dumbest of them all.

    Although @krosfyah repeatedly talking about "antidotal evidence" while trying to sound clever was also quite amusing. Re-reading the thread, I can see that he seems very much pro-mask and was somehow triggered. Then he came back later to say he had an open mind.
     
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    I was right. All you mask fetishists were all wrong.

    The masks are mostly gone, just a few months later, and the world hasn't ended. Certainly mortality of children hasn't gone up because of it.
     
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    @DonnyMost have they finally stopped requiring masks, after their senile leader said "Covid is over"?
     
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    They went mask optional in May.

    That being said, kids are encouraged to mask up if they have a cough (stay home policies only include fever, vomiting, diarrhea), which many do, present company included. I think that's a small positive change from the pre covid era... more courtesy mask wearing.
     
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    Sadly we are seeing record highs of respiratory illnesses among children this fall/winter.

    Like I said in another thread, we seem to have done this completely backwards.

    We masked kids when there was little to no threat to them, and now we're pulling the masks off right as the worst pediatric respiratory illness spike in 100 years is taking hold.

    I always worried that there would be a 'snapback' moment for all of these 'other' viruses after we dropped most covid protocols for kids... Sure enough, here we are.
     
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    The previous masking and lockdowns prevented buildup of natural immunity.

    It's a marathon, not a sprint.
     
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    I blame the lockdowns and closure of schools for that.

    Masks (except for N95) as far as covid is concerned appear to be mostly theater,
     
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    100% correct
     
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    Went through a lot of these citations. A lot of them aren't studies and are labeled as "viewpoints" with titles like *time to go back to school* but when you read the article with that title it says "we don't have enough information".

    This is why higher education is important.
     
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    Most of your links are opinion pieces and the ones that are actually scientific articles are about things like “masks cause acne”. Some of your links don’t work.

    If I didn’t know better you just spammed a bunch of links to give the appearance you had more than you did.
     
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    Lol “natural immunity”…. As if kids are masked 100% of the time.

    Natural immunity came with a much lower life expectancy pre modern medicine.
     
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    lol
     
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    This is reflexively running in the wrong direction.

    Right now there are pediatric respiratory viruses running absolute roughshod.

    These viruses are not primarily transmitted via aerosol, but rather through droplets.

    Even cloth masks are effective for this purpose.

    Just because people were overly cautious during COVID doesn't mean it's OK to go play in traffic now.
     
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    That's a bad example for a leader to set.

    Just stop with "you don't have to wear the masks if you don't want to".

    I want to normalize people wearing masks of their own volition, especially during flu season.

    Castigating people for wearing them is poor form, you have no idea what any of them are dealing with.
     
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