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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. maypk

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    Well, some people did and all my messages posted were towards them proving how dumb that is.

    OK let it be Nix instead of Boban.
     
  2. hlmbasketball

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    I think you missed the point! The point is you can say that about almost any player in the NBA. And every fan base has a player or players that they feel either needs to do better or needs to be traded.

    I think KPJ is doing fine. The only problem I had is he and Jalen stop feeding Jabari when he was hot but that is a lack of maturity and will come over time.

    Also, if you KPJ HATERS noticed, he is deferring PG DUTIES more to Jalen, which I think is a great idea. Two 6'6 guards who can play defense, playmake and shoot, is going to be DANGEROUS!

    You all are not looking at the big picture because you're too focus on the now.
     
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  3. SamCassell

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    So far those two guys have shown that they are effective at one of those three things.
     
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  4. jiggyfly

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    Sorry I am just not impressed when you shoot 4-5 on a random night, especially a #3 pick.

    And that night does not get you to shooting over 40% for the season.

    When you 1st said it, I thought he like 12-15 but 4-5?

    Don't take it personally, I just get tired when people continually lower the bar to say something good for a player they like.
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    What am I spinning?

    Why should anybody be super happy by a guy who shot 4-5?

    And then still shooting only 38% on the season?
     
  6. hlmbasketball

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    At the ages of 20 and 22, respectively, that is not bad.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    People nitpicking because their favorite player is not getting the ball enough is the funniest development this year. They blame KPJ when he takes one shot....OMG, Jabari was wide open in the corner....

    I mean it is not like KPJ is taking 20 shots a game he is still passing it quite a lot for a combo guard, but Jalen is getting the most shots as he should the rest is just organic.

    KPJ is going to be aggressive and attack the basket that is his role, he will pass sometimes, shoot sometimes, get an assist sometimes turn it over sometimes.....he ain't perfect but he is all we got so we should all be HOPING he gets better.

    Instead we get whiny beavers in her just b****ing and moaning about their favorite player not getting the ball.

    And before you clap back, Eason is my favorite player this year - KPJ isn't even in my top 3.....but I think you noodle heads over analyze him because he brings the ball up and it is causing your brains to explode because you just don't like it.

    It is seriously hilarious.

    DD
     
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  8. SamCassell

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    It's fine. But you've definitely put the cart in front of the horse. If those guys develop that way, great. It's highly unlikely both do, and honestly unlikely for either. KPJ seems to be taking the Chandler Parsons route in defensive regression as his offensive role grows.
     
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    KPJ has to get his 15-16 shots at ~50 TS. For the good of the team. Did you see his +/-?
     
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    Rockets do not (or rather cannot due to poor coaching) run any plays for any player to get them the ball in the right spots or with an advantage. All Silas can do is to give the ball to a player, and hope he creates something using a screen or a post-up move. Since Bari is not good at creating his own shot but is a good shooter, this coaching weakness becomes very absurd to watch.
     
  12. duluth111222

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    I’m not a KPJ hater, but isn’t that what us KPJ critics have been advocating? That KPJ should play off the ball more and defer PG duties to Green? Now he’s doing exactly that which is a big reason why we started winning more games now.

    WTF are you bragging about? You are one of the few that were attacking the idea. Every time we say Green should handle more PG duties, you KPJ stans are quick to jump out and point to his turnovers and whatnot, even though he’s younger and has just started to learn the playmaker role. Now you are pretending it’s your idea all along. LOL. GTFOH
     
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  13. chenjy9

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    We all wish it was just one shot he takes. Despite Bari's horrendous start, he has already caught up and passed KPJ for TS% and has been absolutely LETHAL for long range. So, whenever KPJ ignores a wide open Bari to jack up yet another poor shot with his below average efficiency, you gosh darn right people are going to be pissed.

    He jacks up 15.5 shots per game with below average efficiency. Meanwhile Bari and Sengun both gets 10.5 a piece. That is a damn problem. Those numbers should be reversed.

    At this point, we SHOULDN'T want him anywhere in that role. Why would we want to have a poor volume scorer who is also a poor passer in that role? The answer is "We don't". He is also not all we got. Physical limitations aside, Sengun is a much better option for attacking facilitator than KPJ. Heck, even Green has shown more progress in this role less than half a season in than KPJ ever has.

    Wrong. It's not about a "favorite player". Multiple players should be getting the ball before KPJ does.

    If all KPJ did was bring the ball up and that's where his role ended, precious few would be criticizing him. It's all the BS he does AFTER that causes people to lose their minds.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Green can't play PG, he has a way worse handle and is so right handed dominant it would not be a good thing, while his assist have trended upward so has his turnovers, he is now top 15 in the NBA in turnovers.....and KPJ is number 1......

    DD
     
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    Caveat: I'm not a Porter fan.

    Sengun is a helluva scorer, but he's not a PG. Porter is still the best PG on the team even if the Rockets ran Sengun as a hub. I don't want Nix playing instead of him. I think the Rockets are going to have dramatic improvement when they get a better PG, but Rockets are kind of stuck with him for the season.
     
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  16. chenjy9

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    Sengun might not be a PG but he is still has much better court vision and playmaking skills For starters, he is actually aware that passing targets in the corner exists. KPJ can ply the PG position but his role should be to bring the ball up and dump it to Sengun or Green at this point in the season. Think Derek Fisher.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Wah wah wah - we won, he missed a chance to get your wubby the ball......oh well, gonna happen again, take some aspirin.



    He sure does and the team is winning with him doing it, and it is exactly what the coaches are asking him to do - loving what he is doing out there, sometimes drawing attention and taking shots helps others for rebounds or the next time down.....is he perfect? LOL no...but we are 6-4 in the last 10 having beaten Phoenix 2 times, Philly, Milwaukee....I mean...that is progress.



    Yes he is getting better and better in that role, and the role is attack first pass 2nd, that is how the Rox are set up, the rest is just your bias.



    Your opinion - not the Rox Org.


    He is doing the EXACT role he is asked and the team is winning.....just enjoy the ride - or keep on looking foolish and b****ing about something you can't control and makes you frustrated when the team wins.

    WE WON !!! FFS !

    DD
     
  18. chenjy9

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    Responded against my better judgement
     
  19. duluth111222

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    Those are all true. But like what I’ve already said in this thread multiple times, I view Green’s development as our #1 priority right now. Before we can find a competent PG, I’d rather use this season to develop his game: tighten his handles, develop his left hand, get used to orchestrating the offense, etc etc. Then even after we move him back to SG, all these developments and experiences can be invaluable.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    He is developing as the primary scorer that is what the Org sees him as and so do most of us......he is doing fine, why screw up 2 players?

    DD
     

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