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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. O-dawg

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    Really don't get it. He had a decent game last night and more importantly the ball moved, game flowed with him at the helm. Sure he had a one or two bad TO's but I'm not going to let that overshadow the rest of the game.

    He is being asked to score and facilitate. He did that last night, even looking for Sengun a few times which SOF's swear he doesn't do.
     
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    * stop making to's
    * stop making forced shots
    * play for team not yourself, pass the ball

    he is better at last games , i think if he handle this problems he will be great
     
  3. clutchdabear

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    This sequence (starts at 1:50 - ends at 2:03 in the clip) from KPJ encapsulates everything that is wrong about his game and why he needs to be off of this team. This type of low-effort, immature play by KPJ happens way too often in every single game.

    He can't take care of the ball even in the most basic situations, then after he turns it over he has absolutely no urgency in getting back in the play. He just lazily jogs/walks back on defense even after his own turnover, and then does a lazy contest on the shot. Any coach would be infuriated with this type of low-effort player and he'd be in almost every coach's doghouse. Yet he's getting a starring role on this Rockets team...

    Get this loser off of the team already.
     
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  4. jiggyfly

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    You might want to look at who that Houston team beat last year as opposed to who they have beaten this year and also look at point differential, but that does not fit your narrative, so you will not.

    This team looks night and day differently and this team is even younger so this team having the exact same record with a #3 pick that has been kinda overwhelming also should tell you something if you were not so biased.
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    Also 7 out of those 8 wins at this point in the season last year came from vets we don't care about leading them to wins like Wood, EG, Augustine. Green wasn't even a part of the 7 game win streak and was a large talking point for people to trash Green.

    All our wins this season are from our young core leading them to wins. That alone is enough to praise the growth let alone the quality of trans they have beaten.
     
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    If you look at Warrior Fan websites, they said the same things about Steph Curry before they won a Championship, even as recent as last yr.....THE EXACT SAME THINGS;

    1) Stop forcing shots
    2) Stop making turnovers
    3) Play for the team, not yourself

    With a young team, turnovers are going to occur....its natural! My ONLY issue with last night's game, is KPJ AND Jalen fail to look for Jabari when he was hot....you always, always feed the hot hand.
     
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  7. jiggyfly

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    Wait, I thought nobody wanted to get rid of KPJ and people were just constructively pointing out his flaws?:rolleyes:
     
  8. maypk

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    Great points but can you explain to me how is that related to growth of a specific player? If that is your arguement for growth of KPJ, i can easily make a case for growth of Boban as well.
     
  9. Bo6

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    He is our starting PG and is averaging the same amount of assists as Terry Rozier and Cj McCollum.
     
  10. rocketchampsdad

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    yep.. so he must work on this things , if he does its good for him and team
    i prefer kpj being star to him and team being bad and tank every year
    he has physicial advantage heis quick and well @jump
    just like last year with hakeem on sengun
    a legend pg of rockets can teach him when to pass or shot
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Warrior fans would treat KPJ like they treated Monta Ellis, not Steph Curry lol.
     
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    This is dumb. KPJ is NOT Steph Curry lol What a ridiculous post.
     
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  13. fchowd0311

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    If we were to apply pre dynasty Warriors analogies to this current squad, I'm pretty sure Green is Curry and KPJ is Monta Ellis in this situation.
     
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    There is no such thing as "Real" stats?

    Stats are stats, it's individuals that give the stats more importance than others.

    You have to look at all stats the same way and come to a conclusion using all of them.

    You just choose to use TS% because it fits your narrative, but for some reason you ignore everything else that contributes to TS% like playing with much better players or being a 3rd option instead of the focal point of the defense.
     
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    Super efficient shootings?

    He is shooting 38% overall from the field, aren't you one of the guys that complains about KPJ not being efficient?
     
  16. Verbal Christ

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    Counting stats dont matter, only efficiency markers and percentiles? Or maybe the do matter today? Gets confusing how the spin varies day to day.
     
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    Timmy is a KPJ and a rocket's hater why would anybody listen to what he has to say.
     
  18. jiggyfly

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    I am not arguing for growth of a specific player using wins I never would because it's stupid, but you using wins from 2 totally different teams is not a great argument either.

    Boban has not played at all, so how could you make a case for him?
     
  19. Aruba77

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    dude, why are u trying to start beef? Jabari had a super efficient night. He shot 80% from the field and 100% from 3. What’s wrong with you?
     
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  20. chenjy9

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    Par for course, spin and deflect!
     

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