KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

The difference is that Nix deserves it. He’s awful.

 

If instead of KPJ and Nix, we have Nix and a literal chair.

The team is going to be much worse with a literal chair instead of Nix, does that mean Nix is the reason the team plays well?

 

Yeah, that makes no sense in this context. How would a chair fare against the Suns? Until you explain why I should discount the fact that the team destroyed a good Suns team with KPJ at the helm, I won’t.

 

It is absolutely identical context, a chair will perform worse against the Suns than Nix, and the +/- will absolutely make Nix look a lot better. In this case, the chair might be -30, and Nix -8, and any player that plays with the chair is going to have a terrible +/-. That doesn't mean the team was much better "with Nix at the helm". And guess what, the fact that Nix is the only guy that doesn't need to play with the chair is going to make his +/- a lot better too.

You are giving all the credit to KPJ when it's not that the team was better with KPJ on the court, but that they were significantly worse when Nix is on the court. If your whole team makes 10 million a year but you individually lose 1 million a year, but your replacement is even worse and loses 5 million a year, that doesn't make you a financial genius because the team has higher average earnings with you than with your replacement.

I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp.

 

KPJ is the leader of the team and is setting the table - sometimes erratically but for the most part keeps the team moving in the right direction.

We are 6-4 in the last 10 with him at the helm.

DD

 

It is very telling, that the Rockets look better (as evidenced by recent W/L splits) which coincide with KPJ no longer being as involved in the offense.

 

KPJ takes 15.5 shots per game
He makes 6.4
That equates to .412 shooting percentage.

If he were to make 8.4 out of that same 15.5 shots, suddenly he's shooting .542 on a high volume. That's an improvement of 31.2%
James Harden never shot better than .491 in any single season.
CP3's best season was .503
Michael Jordan's best season was .539 and he only shot one 3 point shot per game.

That would translate to superstar numbers by anyone's definition.

If he's playing at that level, this team is winning considerably more games.

 

Too much logic for kpj stans. Kpj is the player of the game in their mind cause of highest +/- on the team. It's like they don't watch the game not see the man take awful shot while being heavily guarded.

 

Junior GMs are big mad!

 

No one said he’s the player of the game, but anyone who watched saw that our team is much worse without him on the floor. Period.

 

I LOL'ed.

 

He was a +22 on the night to lead the team. Lets get a good chuckle when "they" try to diminish it with "well +/- is flawed with BLAH BLAH BLAH"

 

Funny how people can talk **** about KPJ (I have too) and they get called a fake fan like I do when I talk about Sengun. I said things about KPJ last night and nobody called me out for not supporting the players on the team. This is comical lol

 

There is a stark contrast between constructive criticism and flat out hate. There are guys here who only seek player glory vs team prosperity and I havent seen that from the few guys here who root for Scooter. When he plays well its crickets. When he plays bad its a marching band of rage LOL.

 

That’s exactly what I’ve been saying! Sengun is the only player people get in their feelings over. I say some stuff like **** Sengun and all, but it’s funny to see how his only fans have a meltdown over it

 

Only because Nix is the worst player in the NBA.

 

"Whataboutism or whataboutery denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation."

Logic: Logical fallacy
Tactic: Propaganda technique"

 

Tim MacMahon pretty much says what a lot of us already think: KPJ is a sixth man kind of guy, not the right starting PG to pair with Jay-Green.

He might improve to become a good PG someday, but I doubt it. We'll see. That being said, I think he played well last night aside from the turnovers.

 

You don't "put up" +/-. Your team (and your opponent) while you are playing do.

If your teammates happen to play poorly while you are on the floor, it doesn't matter how well you play, you get negative points. If your opponent happens to have a cold spell and miss everything, you get positive points even though you may be playing poorly. You only contribute a fraction to your +/-. Most of it is the result of the other 9 guys on the floor.

Long term +/- is more meaningful in showing a player's impact. But it still has a lot to do with the lineups he's in an the lineups he plays against.

 

What did I tell ya'll there it is the "+/- is not that big of a deal, but it kinda is" LMAOOOOOOOO