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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. finsraider

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    Only a mid-level troll. You should’ve thrown in Brown to take it next level.

    If I’m the Astros, I absolutely would watch Springer if the Bluejays take a step back.

    I’d also tell Diaz he’s either going to be a full time catcher or a part time bat…his choice. The Astros seem to think he’s got the tools to be a catcher.
     
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    Varsho

    xwOBA
    2020: .288
    2021: .323
    2022: .298

    wRC+
    2020: 76
    2021: 99
    2022: 106

    OPS+
    2021: 102
    2022: 109

    McCormick

    xwOBA
    2021: .311
    2022: .325

    wRC+
    2021: 108
    2022: 114

    OPS+
    2021: 107
    2022: 110

    I'd rather have McCormick, all 6 of our SP and give Meyers, Brantley, Gallo, Conforto or someone else a shot.
     
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    That was entirely due to Dusty playing Vazquez 37% of the time.
     
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  5. finsraider

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    Yeah, the Diamondbacks OFs are kind of hard to see as a fit. McCormick is better than people think. We already have Leon so I’m not sure what the point of Alek Thomas is.

    The simplest and surest way forward is 1 of Conforto or Benintendi and 1 catcher.
     
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    Mccormick last year over a 600 PA pace was on track for 2.5 WAR. I know people around here look at him as a weak link, but he’s a slightly above average starter at CF. His plate discipline improved over his rookie year, and he had a very strong postseason on top of that last year.
     
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    McCarthy is a fit. If you wanna add Thomas that's a Future move. So adding both would be Ideal. Starting Thomas in AAA. McCarthy would be you everyday CF. You sign Benintendi to play LF and look for a Catcher. I would say Meyers, Leon and another for Moreno so we stay young and cheap. Let Moreno learn from Maldy
     
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    Varsho only makes sense if the intention is to have him split time at C and CF (like 60 games each). I do think he’s a superior hitter to McCormick but agree paying the cost for him wouldn’t be worth it for the marginal upgrade there, and there’s a chance McCormick produces more than Varsho.
     
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  11. finsraider

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    If you’ve got Yordan, McCormick, Tucker and Benintendi/Conforto in the OF, plus Meyers in reserve and Leon, Gilbert, Barber and Melton in the minors, I don’t see much point in adding anyone in place of or in addition to that group.

    The bigger question is catcher. I lean toward a quality defensive backup and see what happens with Lee/Diaz.
     
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    Varsho is a gold glove OF with nice speed and power. You dont risk his knees giving out and losing all of that.
     
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    Kevin Kiermaier to the Jays
     
  15. finsraider

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    So I guess we just keep waiting for Benintendi and Conforto to make up their minds.

    Seems like Rodon is holding up the market.
     
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    Meyes would be traded. LEOiN might be a SS or 2B if needed.
     
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    I don't know what's worse, Astros at 10 or Darvish and Snell three spots ahead at 7.
     
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    Without catching, Varsho and Chaz have been the same player so far in their careers.
     
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    The projected improvement in total value available is really minor now that Contreras and Nimmo are off the market. Benintendi offers only a marginal upgrade over Meyers/McCormick/Dubon in LF; only about 1-1.5 fWAR. Conforto, Brantley, and the other options offer even less of a projected upgrade. At catcher, Narvaez/Vazquez only represent a projected 1 win upgrade over Lee/Diaz/Maldy. By far the most obvious way to improve the overall team outlook via free agency would be to pay Rodon, which would move Brown/Urquidy to the pen and replace innings by projected replacement level players like Taylor, Bielak, France, and Mushinski.

    The value just might not be there. That said, I would expect that eventually several options at LF and C would drop their asking prices dramatically once the number of available everyday/significant roles drops down to 1-2. Houston could end up with way lesser options (like Gallo or Profar in LF or Alfaro or Zunino at C), but pay WAY less, potentially making them one of only a few contending teams entering the season with significant financial flexibility. I would much rather see that outcome than give somebody like Benintendi $70M+ or overpaying via trade.
     
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    Cubs are trying to win this year, they are in on Correa

    So if it’s a deadline deal cause the cubs are out of it, the value of a guy like Jake could change drastically by then

    He could be having a good year in which case no way you would give 4 years of him for a couple months of Happ. Or he could still be sucking in which case they would likely find a better deal (
    Then you don't give up anywhere close to what they would want for him. If he isn't going to play catcher at least a third of the time, he isn't worth the cost, nowhere near it.

    Doesn't mean he isn't a very good player, just not worth it
     

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