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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. Htown Legend

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    The problem with the Yankees potentially signing Correa isn’t just Correa himself- it’s that the Yankees would be able to dangle 2 of the best SS prospects in the game in just about any trade package they want, including Bryan Reynolds and possibly Trout
     
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    Unless I missed it, I didn't see one Astro in that clip.

    I missed it.
     
  3. jayfree

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    Trout doesn't have the mentality to live in NY and win. And Correa would sign a no-trade clause guaranteed
     
  4. Htown Legend

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    Yeah Correa isn’t a prospect and wasn’t who I was talking about. Volpe and Oswaldo Peraza.

    Trout is from New Jersey and I’m not even specifically saying him. A Correa signing would just give them a lot of flexibility from a trade perspective. Plus, I don’t wanna see Correa in a Yankee uniform.

    On a side note since I brought up Trout, the Angels have to be looking at this division and know they have no shot. Astros, Mariners, even the Rangers with DeGrom… if they don’t blow it up yet I imagine they will by the deadline.
     
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    They discovered they could print pictures of seashells and pass them off as seashells.
     
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    I'm expecting the denials to turn to desperation by the Trade Deadline.
     
  7. J_Hunter_1977

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    So IF the Yankees were to sign Rondon and Correa, and we just resign Brantley, do you guys think the Yankees have caught up with the Astros? If not what additional moves by the Yankees do you think it would take to pass us?
     
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  8. finsraider

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    Ive leaned toward Conforto as well, but can understand the hesitancy. The guy just missed an entire year due to a shoulder problem…no guarantees at all on his performance. I’m not sure I want to be the team that finds out if he’s got anything in the tank.

    Then again, the Benintendi comparison to Josh Reddick has me a bit spooked. We were right on the edge of contention when we signed Reddick…pre Kyle Tucker.

    Right now we have 3 proven young guns manning the outfield. Not saying Benintendi doesn’t add something, but I’d rather leave room for somebody to come in and beat out an incumbent (perhaps McCormick) than sign what effectively might be a utility player in a year.
     
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  9. Landry's Tooth

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    No, I'm saying a guy widely known as a bad fielding catcher.

    People know Trout as a complete player.

    If Yordan was terrible in left for a decade then you would have a point.

    Context clues there... you took part of a post out to change its meaning.
     
  10. Rock Block

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    I can hear it now in that typical NY voice from the Jankee fans "yea but he's our cheata now, fits right in" yea not going to hear that, all is forgiven.....
     
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    Until they actually BEAT us we're still ahead no matter what moves they make.
     
  12. finsraider

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    Decided to spend some time looking into Danny Jansen.

    He’s a heavy pull right handed hitter, so there may be some potential he would do better without the shift and with the short porch at Minute Maid.

    Historically been good at hitting righties, which is interesting, but weak against lefties. Made some improvement against lefties this year, though the sample size isn’t huge.

    Speaking of the shift, is there a chance teams would bring up their left or right fielder to just barely outside the dirt, move the CF over to the corner and shade the opposite corner fielder to CF? Not exactly certain how the rule was written for the outfield.
     
  13. Yordan The Great

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    This is correct.

    Correa is a 20 HR/80 R/75 RBI guy even if he stays healthy for 150+ games.

    I would pay him no more than 20-25 million. And that's only because of his defense.
     
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  14. SKYGODZ187

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    Out of pure curiosity would we be able to get Iann Happ for Phil Maton, Joe Perez and Jake Meyers?

    Cubs are In search of a CF and a Relief Pitcher. They gain a Prospect.

    We get a OFer with some pop who can play all OF postions. The bottom part of the Lineup would get an Ideally better switch hitter and we didn't really lose much in the over all trade. Sure it stings alittle but you gotta pay to recieve.
     
  15. Wulaw Horn

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    Why are you putting Runs and RBI in a statline and pretending that means anything outside of the context of lineup quality and lineup position? If Correa hit 3rd in the Astros lineup he would absolutely drive in 100 and score 100 without doing a single thing differently than he did last year. It's entirely and completely driven by lineup context. It's a stupid counting stat that relies on tons of **** outside the players actual ability level man. Be better than using garbage numbers to try to line up to a point you are trying to make. A couple days ago you were using BA like it was an ultimate stat. Like, everyone in the world, even the most dinasour of dinasour thinkers have moved beyond that. It's beneath what should be talked about in 2022.
     
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  16. Wulaw Horn

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    1 year of Happ for 5 years of Meyers? And some add ons from Houston? I would think that the Cubs would have to consider that at the deadline if they weren't in it- but they butt****ed the deadline worse than any other team in baseball (absent maybe the Rockies) last year so who knows for sure what they will do.
     
  17. awc713

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    NYY is definitely reacting not only to HOU, but underratedly also to NYM. I wouldn’t be surprised if they signed Correa. It’s really a perfect fit if you think about it, for both sides too. Carlos has always wanted the brightest lights, media central, plus he gets paid…and NYY gets the best SS in their history.

    Side note: George Parton once said: “No b*stard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb b*stard die for his country.” In a similar vein, you don’t win the ships by paying the best players top dollar in free agency, you win by developing them and making the other bastards sign em to decade long or albatross deals.
     
  18. Francis3422

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    My baseball knowledge pales in comparison to a lot of y’all but I guess I think of it as 145-150 games of Abreu cancels out the loss of JV. I think we are still clearly the best team in MLB. We can more than afford to be patient.
     
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  19. Wulaw Horn

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    That's a hard one to conceptualize. So, not all runs scored or runs prevented are equal, right? scoring a 10th run in 1 game is very very very very very much less valuable than not conceding a second run, in a game, for reasons that should be obvious. If the Astros lineup is going to score like 5 runs a game without him and 5.5 runs a game with him that's less valuable than if he moves us from 4.3 to 4.8 runs a game (I'm just messing around with numbers out of my ass, obviously. Conversely, if JV is throwing up 1 and 2 and 3 runs a game every time out, which was essentially what he was doing with an era around 1.8, the Astros are more or less unbeatable in those games, while if Abreu hits a 3 run HR to put 7 on the board we were likely winning that game anyway.

    They have a stat that's championship percentage added for the playoffs, I don't know if they have that kind of stat in the regular season. It's not predictive, it merely describes what happened. So, throwing a 1,2,3 inning in the 8th up 7-1 adds pretty close to nothing, while Hitting a 3 run HR down 2 in the 9th inning adds something like .98% to the winning percentage (Yordan's HR in game 1 against SEA).
     
  20. The Real Shady

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    Wrong. They will be in awe and realize just how average Jeter actually was.
     
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