Rockets should be patient, you can get a great PG in FA without giving up your core. This team needs a good coach, not panicked trades.
Yeah , sure dude - i mean Young is a notorious coach killer already in the NBA. Coaching has little to do with his success. He'd inform you at length on that. He's probably correct mostly. I laugh at all you guys who "oh it's the coaching" not because of any affinity for Silas, but because you guys vastly, vastly overinflate the impact of coaching in the NBA. This team sucks regardless of who's out there - because the players are not good at basketball
I get the frustration after an ugly loss, especially considering a lot of the young guys who are supposed to be stars seem to be underperforming this season. But this screams "knee jerk reaction" to me. Green's efficiency has tanked this year, but in an offense with zero system, he's still been averaging basically 22/4/4 and doesn't turn 21 for another two months. Sengun is averaging an efficient 15/9/2 in less than 27 minutes a game and he's even younger than Jalen. Smith had a rough start to the year, but he's a freaking teenager with a unicorn skillset who's averaged 15/7/1/1 with 44% shooting from 3 over his last 10 games. I know we all want these guys to thrive and this team to be back in contention again, but these kids can't even legally drink yet and we're already calling them busts essentially despite all the potential they're showing. That's just absurd to me. Take a look at a lot of the guys who are All-NBA level comps for these three and their stats at the same age and tell me this trio is dramatically underperforming. Trading all these young assets for a borderline star like Young would be a huge mistake. We'd win 35 games every year and draft 10th-12th and never go anywhere. We may not have a player of his caliber on this roster yet, or we might have multiple guys who develop into better players. We don't know, but we're also not going to know if we trade them all away before they get the chance to prove themselves.
I think the Hawks are good example of what a coach can bring to a team. The Hawks were dead in the water two years ago and a coaching change turned them into a contender. Not everything here is on Silas, but I think he is better suited as an assist rather than a head coach. And I would be nervous about selling off our guys so early without giving a different coach a chance to do some work. Especially if all you’re getting is Young and little future maneuverability.
There's a ringer pod where they say he's pretty much disliked around the league including own locker room due to his constant heel act
people told me Atlanta was a finals contender tho… https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/great-job-silas.317345/#post-14295044
LMAO is anyone actually surprised who called them that. I'd tag but not necessary in this case finals contender LOL
[ I'm glad you brought the 2021 Hawks up because they're actually example of the opposite Somebody argued at length to me in October 21 that they were the example of what you say - .500 team under Loyd Pierce -> trae hates pierce -> bring in Nate - > ECF. What happened last season? They brought back the exact same roster that took them to ECF with Nate and the exact same roster they fired Lloyd over. The results in 21-22? They regressed exactly back to where they were under the prior coach - a .500 team once again, which is exactly what they are in 22-23 (though they changed the roster this year). So, eitner, Pierce WAS the problem, Nate fixed the problem for 40 games, and then for the last 1.5 seasons, Nate became the problem again..... or there's an underlying issuewith the players core (young hunter Collins clint etc) being a flawed . 500 ish players core, notwithstanding the lucky/hot/variance draw that got them to ECF. Im guessing it's the latter and the coach issues is correlation not causation - but looks like we'll get to see again soon if someone elsecan do it
Nah I'm good. Trae might actually be unplayable in the playoffs, too. He certainly was last year. He did well against the Knicks but I put that more on the Knicks' coaching and lack of a perimeter playmaker to make Trae work on defense. If Trae is a consistent and confirmed team morale killer on a talented team, he would be even worse here. Plus, I don't believe the Hawks are even close to considering it. So it's a No from both teams (albeit a stronger No from Atlanta).
Dont know if I would trade Jabari but I would think about adding Green. I know he's 20yrs old and has a plethora of yrs ahead but as of now, I'm just not seeing what I want to see on a continuous basis. Too many ups and downs. No killer instinct.
It’s a valid point. But I think you have to say that the coaching change inspired some sort of change in the team. I feel like they have really underperformed since then. Is it one player (like Young) undermining the coaching and creating turmoil, or is it just a mismatch of players? I don’t know. You may be right that they just have the wrong mix, but I don’t think coaches are irrelevant.
I guess I'm saying that there's a chance that "even worse trae" here is probably substantially better than literally every single clodhopping dunderhead on our roster.
Thumbs up for creatitivity and thinking outside the box, at least. However you just offended the Porter and Sengun fanclubs.
That brings up another not-very-discussed point - if coachign changes give you short term boosts like that - teams should do it all the time. It's actually not that uncommon in sports like european soccer. Even the best teams churn through coaches very quickly, 1-3years being the average lifespan (Klopp and Guardiola in Liverpool/Manchester are the exceptions to the rule) and there's a usualy "new manager bump" that teams rely on when doing so. Chelsea brought in Thomas Tuchel in mid season in 21, won the champions league that year, then fired him this fall.
