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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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  2. Twitter

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  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

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  1. London'sBurning

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  2. Os Trigonum

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    https://theweek.com/elon-musk/1019077/elon-musk-briefly-loses-title-of-worlds-richest-person


    Elon Musk briefly loses title of world's richest person
    by Justin Klawans

    The wealth of Twitter CEO Elon Musk played ping-pong on Wednesday, causing Forbes to report that he had briefly lost the title of the world's richest person.

    While Musk had previously been securely on the top of the list, his recent controversies and $44 billion bet on Twitter have caused his net worth to fluctuate. As a result, Forbes reported that Musk was overtaken as the world's richest person on Wednesday morning by Bernard Arnault. The Frenchman is the owner of LVMH, a conglomerate known for luxury subsidiaries like Louis Vuitton, Givenchy, Hennessy, and Bulgari.

    However, by the afternoon, Musk had reclaimed the title, only to be dethroned again by Arnault minutes later. As of the time of market closings at 4 p.m. ET, Forbes reported that Musk had regained the wealthiest man title, being worth $185.4 billion to Arnault's $184.7 billion.

    With the two men's net worths being so close, though, the outlet said that it "won't be surprising if they continue to flip flop in Forbes' rankings of the world's wealthiest."

    The fact that Arnault has now caught up to Musk is a large development for the tech mogul, who earlier this year was reported to be worth more than $270 billion. However, a number of changes made by Musk at Twitter seemed to cause the market to lose confidence in the company, and Musk has said Twitter could even be facing bankruptcy. Forbes also noted that shares of Tesla, the car brand that first made Musk his sizable wealth, are down 50 percent on the year.



     
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    Bro, no new thread? Disappoint.
     
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    Not gonna lie, this stuff is incredibly boring now.
     
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    Tupac loved Hennessy
     
  6. Commodore

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    Twitter tyrants had all sorts of tools to shadow ban people they didn't like. We all suspected this was happening.


     
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    lol

     
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    I knew that they did this to Jay Bhattacharya. Remember, Fauci's daughter worked at Twitter during that time, too. Big mess.

    Jay Bhattacharya is a top expert.
     
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    Well, hasn't Elon already announced he wants to use these tools as well? "Freedom of speech is not freedom of reach"?
     
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    Remind me the number of original research articles or COVID patients Jay cared for over the last three years?
     
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    Oh, no, Twitter did not promote the pro-COVID voices during the pandemic. Yet their voices were still amplified by the pro-COVID sycophants.
    That's the same Bari Weiss who cancelled the Palestinians at Columbia, right?
     
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    THREAD: THE TWITTER FILES PART TWO.

    TWITTER'S SECRET BLACKLISTS.

    1. A new #TwitterFiles investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topicsall in secret, without informing users.

    2. Twitter once had a mission "to give everyone the power to create and share ideas and information instantly, without barriers." Along the way, barriers nevertheless were erected.

    3. Take, for example, Stanford's Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (@DrJBhattacharya) who argued that Covid lockdowns would harm children. Twitter secretly placed him on a "Trends Blacklist," which prevented his tweets from trending.
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    4. Or consider the popular right-wing talk show host, Dan Bongino (@dbongino), who at one point was slapped with a "Search Blacklist."
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    5. Twitter set the account of conservative activist Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) to "Do Not Amplify."
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    6. Twitter denied that it does such things. In 2018, Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (then Head of Legal Policy and Trust) and Kayvon Beykpour (Head of Product) said: "We do not shadow ban." They added: "And we certainly don't shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology."

    7. What many people call "shadow banning," Twitter executives and employees call "Visibility Filtering" or "VF." Multiple high-level sources confirmed its meaning.

    8. "Think about visibility filtering as being a way for us to suppress what people see to different levels. It's a very powerful tool," one senior Twitter employee told us.

    9. "VF" refers to Twitter's control over user visibility. It used VF to block searches of individual users; to limit the scope of a particular tweet's discoverability; to block select users' posts from ever appearing on the "trending" page; and from inclusion in hashtag searches.

    10. All without users' knowledge.

    11. "We control visibility quite a bit. And we control the amplification of your content quite a bit. And normal people do not know how much we do," one Twitter engineer told us. Two additional Twitter employees confirmed.

    12. The group that decided whether to limit the reach of certain users was the Strategic Response Team - Global Escalation Team, or SRT-GET. It often handled up to 200 "cases" a day.

    13. But there existed a level beyond official ticketing, beyond the rank-and-file moderators following the company's policy on paper. That is the "Site Integrity Policy, Policy Escalation Support," known as "SIP-PES."

    14. This secret group included Head of Legal, Policy, and Trust (Vijaya Gadde), the Global Head of Trust & Safety (Yoel Roth), subsequent CEOs Jack Dorsey and Parag Agrawal, and others.

    15. This is where the biggest, most politically sensitive decisions got made. "Think high follower account, controversial," another Twitter employee told us. For these "there would be no ticket or anything."

    16. One of the accounts that rose to this level of scrutiny was
    @libsoftiktokan account that was on the "Trends Blacklist" and was designated as "Do Not Take Action on User Without Consulting With SIP-PES."
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    17. The accountwhich Chaya Raichik began in November 2020 and now boasts over 1.4 million followerswas subjected to six suspensions in 2022 alone, Raichik says. Each time, Raichik was blocked from posting for as long as a week.

    18. Twitter repeatedly informed Raichik that she had been suspended for violating Twitter's policy against "hateful conduct."

    19. But in an internal SIP-PES memo from October 2022, after her seventh suspension, the committee acknowledged that "LTT has not directly engaged in behavior violative of the Hateful Conduct policy." See here:
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    20. The committee justified her suspensions internally by claiming her posts encouraged online harassment of "hospitals and medical providers" by insinuating "that gender-affirming healthcare is equivalent to child abuse or grooming."

    21. Compare this to what happened when Raichik herself was doxxed on November 21, 2022. A photo of her home with her address was posted in a tweet that has garnered more than 10,000 likes.

    22. When Raichik told Twitter that her address had been disseminated she says Twitter Support responded with this message: "We reviewed the reported content, and didn't find it to be in violation of the Twitter rules." No action was taken. The doxxing tweet is still up.
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    23. In internal Slack messages, Twitter employees spoke of using technicalities to restrict the visibility of tweets and subjects. Here's Yoel Roth, Twitter's then Global Head of Trust & Safety, in a direct message to a colleague in early 2021:
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    24. Six days later, in a direct message with an employee on the Health, Misinformation, Privacy, and Identity research team, Roth requested more research to support expanding "non-removal policy interventions like disabling engagements and deamplification/visibility filtering."
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    25. Roth wrote: "The hypothesis underlying much of what we've implemented is that if exposure to, e.g., misinformation directly causes harm, we should use remediations that reduce exposure, and limiting the spread/virality of content is a good way to do that."

    26. He added: "We got Jack on board with implementing this for civic integrity in the near term, but we're going to need to make a more robust case to get this into our repertoire of policy remediations especially for other policy domains."

    27. There is more to come on this story, which was reported by @abigailshrier @shellenbergermd @nelliebowles @isaacgrafstein and the team The Free Press @thefp.

    Keep up with this unfolding story here and at our brand new website: http://thefp.com.

    28. The authors have broad and expanding access to Twitter's files. The only condition we agreed to was that the material would first be published on Twitter.

    29. We're just getting started on our reporting. Documents cannot tell the whole story here. A big thank you to everyone who has spoken to us so far. If you are a current or former Twitter employee, we'd love to hear from you. Please write to: tips@thefp.com

    30. Watch @mtaibbi for the next installment.
     
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    @J.R. doing the work so you don't have to
     
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    ThEy ArE nOt SuSpeNdInG, BaNnInG oR sUpPreSsInG cOnSeRvAtIveS…(NoT wItHoUt GoOd ReAsOn!)

    It’s not happening and it’s a good thing they did!
    We must fight “(m/d)isinformation!
    (M/D)isinformation being anything we disagree with.

     
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    Absolutely. Except Musk is not a simple minded politically driven hack commonly found on Twitter, FB and even this forum.

    He is much more dangerous. And its incredibly stupid to marginalize his successes by calling him lucky or just an 'investor'.
     
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    i-love-lucy-explain.gif
     
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