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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. Marshall Bryant

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    VERY BAD PROJECTIONS.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    Steamer has a very similar split. The Astros use tandem starters and had Brown prepare for postseason use last year. Steamer/ Fangraphs are predicting Brown will be a Top 30 SP when used as a SP and Abreu except without leverage as reliever due to relief appearances in 2022 season.

    I said $110M SV using the 159 innings per season. That may be a little much, but much closer than using projections that think Brown will mostly be a reliever.
     
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  3. Yordan The Great

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    But the Yankees would never do anything nefarious would they?
     
  4. Wulaw Horn

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    150 surplus value seems light to me. What’s 30 WAR worth? 300M? He’s got 250M at least in him?
     
  5. Yordan The Great

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    You seem to leave out the fact that we got the best 2 years (by far) of Gerit Cole in that trade and had us a hair from winning another WS. One could easily argue he should have been a Cy Young winner.

    I don't think anyone will ever come close to saying that trade was a mistake.
     
  6. Jeremy Williams

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    We have a lot of risk in our pitching right now with the loss of Verlander. Is our 6 man rotation strong? Yes! But we are going to be asking a lot of the 6 guys to go more innings than they have ever done before. Javier, Urquidy, Garcia, McCullers will all be pushed beyond their level of experience.

    Urquidy--2022 was a career max 164.1 innings (averaged 5.86 innings/game)
    McCullers--2021 was a career max 162.1 innings (averaged 5.79 innings/game)
    Brown--2022 rookie with 20.1 innings (126.1 career max including minors)
    Garcia--2022 was a career max 157.1 innings (averaged 5.61 innings/game)
    Javier--2022 was a career max 148.2 innings (averaged 5.95 innings/game)

    Even Valdez hit a career high 201.1 innings in 2022. His previous high was 134.2 in 2021.

    Is it possible for our 6 guys to stay healthy and each hit new IP records? Sure. Is it likely? Maybe not. As @Snake Diggit has been arguing, we could really use another arm in the rotation. We don't want to kill our pen. I'm not sure that we NEED one in the offseason, but at some point in the season it will be critical for us to add more pitching. Either AAA/AA advancement or a trade.

    We are definitely not set with pitching.
     
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  7. ktex

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    I'm warming to grabbing Rodon.
     
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    I'd love rodon but the Yankees are going to outbid everyone for him.
    He also was kind of a jerk about the sign stealing
     
  9. Deuce Rings

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    SEAN MURPHY: He’s a good defensive catcher (Gold Glove in 2021). Before 2021 he never played more than 43 games in a season.

    2022: .250, 66 RBI, 18 HR in 148 games
    2021: .216, 59 RBI, 17 HR in 119 games

    I’m certainly not selling the farm to acquire that production. Sounds like the A’s are looking for a sucker. The Astros are not that sucker
     
  10. Mr.Pringles

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    Too expensive for a guy who’s pitched 130+ innings only twice in eight seasons. He’s gonna break down big time in a few years.
     
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    You think that’s it with moves?

    Free Agents pricing themselves out of Astros budget and service years?

    Maybe we go after Brantley on a one year deal to prove himself once he is healthy?
     
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    They don't have to when MLB is doing their dirty work for them.
     
  13. SKYGODZ187

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    Benintendi is the best fit for us. I think he would sign for 15m
     
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    These are very poor metrics to use for value measurement.
     
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  15. Jeremy Williams

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    No. But it may be painstakingly slow.
     
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    2020 was his rookie season and he played 43 of 60 games.

    You might as well say before 2020 Kyle Tucker didn't play much. ( 2019 was his rookie season but he spent the first 5 months in AAA)
     
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    Really?

    You would NOT call a gold glove winning catcher with a career OPS of .755 and 3 years of control who is bring actively traded

    A very rare asset?

    Are they useful?
    How many are out there?
     
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    They only determine the 6 years of control

    Are you saying he get 30 WAR?

    Verlander didn't even get to 25 and he was a 4 time all star, ROY, CY, MVP winner and 4 OTHER top 7 CY finishes.
     

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