WNBA player Britney Griner arrested in Russia: updated: wokes expected sellout crowd, nope lol

One of those charges are still significantly more severe in the eyes of the nation-state and make it a lot harder to negotiate.

 

That’s fair.
The fact that we accepted the “lesser” for Bout is the issue.

 

it's not obvious to me. half the WNBA is gay; what makes Griner special?

 

How is it an issue? You are seeing it ass backwards. The fact that she has a less serious charge makes her easier to trade.

 

I didn't know who she was until it hit the news that she was arrested in Russia.

 

If you were a terminally online right winger you would have known her. She's one of the boogymen of the right even before the Russia incident.

 

No, you’re seeing at ass backwards.
Bout is a far more notorious and dangerous person, you don’t accept the weaker offer for him.
That’s trading Watson for a 7th rounder.

 

About has already served most of his sentence. He has no more connections and is terminally ill.

He provides no harm to society being released at this stage or else he would have had much longer sentence.

If we want Whelan we need to trade a spy for a spy.

 

How many people would have even known about Paul Whelon if Griner never got arrested?

If it takes this just for Griner and her vape pen, what they must be asking for in return for someone who was charged with being a foreign spy must be insanely astronomical.

 

I disagree. I know that’s your opinion, but a man with his notoriety and past doesn’t lose that for being in prison. If anything that helps his cause, on top of him not doing well health wise. What’s to stop him now?
There’s a reason Russia wants him back, it’s not to have him live out the rest of his life at home.

 

Well I guess it's equal speculation on both our parts here.

 

Minimizing her charges isn’t right. She was charged with smuggling narcotics.
Both Griner and Whelan are political pawns. Neither are guilty of their charges imo.
And lots of people knew about Whelan, specially after Reed.
But he doesn’t have the backing of the NBA social media powers.

 

Maybe so. But Russia deemed him valuable enough to cash in on their biggest lottery ticket.

 

Minimizing her charges? People are just speaking matter of fact.

It's like you are emphasizing drug smuggling for a reason here.

She was arrested for personal possession of weed. That's it. There is no embellishment or minimizing there.


And then there is espionage.

No, the NBA social media power isn't going to erase the fact that one charge is significantly more severe and more difficult to trade.


The NBA social media powers... Lol as if there isn't massive right wing financial backing on narratives on social media that can make Whelan into a political martyr.

 

Saudi crown prince, UAE president led mediation in US basketball star Griner, Russia’s Viktor Bout prisoner swap

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2213066/saudi-arabia

story:

RIYADH: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and UAE President Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed led mediation efforts that secured the release of two prisoners between the US and Russia, a joint statement issued by both countries’ foreign ministries said on Thursday.

“The ministries said the success of the mediation efforts was a reflection of the mutual and solid friendship between their two countries and the United States and Russia,” the statement said.

“They also highlighted the important role played by the leaderships of the two brotherly countries in promoting dialogue between all parties,” it added.

US basketball star Brittney Griner arrived in Abu Dhabi by private plane from Moscow on Thursday after she was released by Russian authorities, the statement confirmed, while Russian citizen Viktor Bout came in a separate private plane from Washington after he was released by US authorities, in the presence of specialists from the Kingdom and the UAE.

“The UAE and Saudi Arabian foreign ministries expressed the thanks of their respective governments to the governments of the US and Russia for their cooperation and response, and for the joint mediation efforts made by the leaderships of the two countries,” the statement also said.
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No, you’re minimizing what Russia charged her with. The laws here aren’t the laws there, even if they seem outrageous.
She was charged and convicted of illegal possession and attempting to smuggle narcotics. A trumped up charge for what she had.
Same as Whelan, him being a marine in Russia is enough to be considered a spy.
It’s funny you minimize one, but not the other.


And your fascination with left/right is worrisome. You’re a little too radicalized. I don’t care what side you’re on politically

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/22/6874...-got-thumb-drive-with-state-secrets-lawyer-sa


Again, you can use the most harsh wording possible but you aren't going to convince someone who has a functional brain that weed possession is as severe as espionage.

There have been many former Marines who stepped foot in Russia without being detained. He did something specific or they are claiming he did something specific.

Either way, one is a drug charge and the other is an espionage charge. Ya, an reasonable human will understand one charge is significantly more severe than the other in the eyes of the state.

 

she was charged with smuggling and narcotics possession for having a few vape cartridges in her bag…she wasn’t out here moving weight across the Atlantic

the amount of people that knew about Wheelan increased substantially after Griner and her case blew up

and my main point is that if it takes the arms dealer for Griner, what it will take for someone they found guilty of being a spy must be insanely high

 

No, I’m using the actual charges. You can pretend they’re not there all you want