Could reuniting with his bestie Altuve, get JD Martinez to improve his OPS slightly? I say yes. Altuve is that amazing. His joy will get JD back into .800. And it was only a year ago that JD played 35 games in the outfield. It be perfect. 2 years, 10 million per season. Or just announce Uncle Smooth back, cowards.
Edit.. not for 5/87.5 tho.. still want us to do something. Otherwise might as well have give JV. The 43 mil per… especially if the plan is to trade pitchers now…
How about Garcia for Murphy straight up? Controllable pitcher with upside for controllable catcher. Then go and sign another pitcher - like Bassitt ?
Garcia isn't a free agent until 2027, so no doubt he is valuable I don't think that comes close though. We likely value him much higher than most other organizations. Even if it would get it done, it would be a no for me. I don't want to move any of the pitching that just won us a ring. Verlander is already gone, that's enough for me
Absolutely agree If Brown can be a solid starter, our pitching is still top of the AL and our offense immensely improved
WAY too little Apparently A's are asking for Brown, Abreu PLUS 2 more players. I think they should not trade any pitching until more is acquired.
All good points - but we’d get a stud catcher and could still sign another pitcher. Was curious if the gallery thought that would be a fair 1 for 1 deal - although sounds like we’d have to sweeten it some
pitching rotation won't be as good. It's tbd especially with possible injuries (LMJ) and likely regression to the rotation.
I would not trade any of our young mlb pitching, period. I know a guy like Bassitt is out there and others we could trade for Thing is, we KNOW that Framber, Javier, Garcia, Urquidy can perform on the big stage. We KNOW we can go into the playoffs with them and dominate teams. I wouldn't give that up for pretty much anything. Not everyone can perform on that stage. The dodgers have had more quality starting pitchers than anyone over the past decade and their only title was in the short, strange covid year. Hmmm
Man … some of y’all must already be underestimating and forgetting about the upgrade and impact that Abreu will have the window shopping is fun, and nice, but don’t forget that the Patrick Corbin contracts of the world can severely handicap organizations. Just because big names are signing doesn’t mean it’s good. some of y’all are also forgetting that the Stros just won the whole damn thing with a severely injured Machete behind the dish. Astros are not operating from a weak standpoint. We’re still the champs and org is still in really good shape for the next ~3 years. No need to squander that or our flexibility because some of y’all like shiny new things.
LOL at Abreu and Brown for a guy catcher that hasn't proven anything as of yet and could bust in a few years
No one knows what the A's have asked for. I doubt they could fetch a bigger player than Luis Garcia for a catcher. Im not signing off on it but ya'll are acting like this is Yordan alvarez we are trading for.
Maybe not in the regular season, but without Verlander, the starting pitching could be better in the playoffs.
Hard to agree with it when we don't know what else we are doing. Losing JV and adding Abreu is a net negative for me on strictly a player production standpoint for 2023.
No doubt we aren't replacing what regular season Verlander did last year But I don't see any others who will likely regress. Yes, Lance is always an injury risk, but if we are comparing to last year we only got 47 innings out of him. No reason to think he won't give us at least, if not more, than what he did last year Garcia has a lot of room to grow in my opinion. Dude barely pitched above single A before coming to the majors. He is pretty likely to give us better than the 3.7 era he produced last year. Framber is a stud. I know on it's own in a single game a "quality start" isn't exactly a dominating performance. But when you set the record for consecutive quality starts, you are a stud. As consistent as any starter in the game If you want to say Javier is likely to regress, I could buy that potentially. But the guy is dominant. It's not just that the Yankees can't get a single hit off of him ever...dude ended the year with 23 scoreless innings, had another stretch in August where he gave up 3 runs in 24 innings, and had a simply dominant start in the series. Maybe he doesn't give 150 innings of 2.5 era again, but I wouldn't be any more surprised if he threw 170 innings of sub 2 era than if he threw 120 innings of 3+
Depending on certain factors, I agree. I know WAR isn't the end-all, be-all stat, but for fun let's assume everyone on the team performs at roughly the same level they did last year and you lose Verlander's 5.9 WAR (which is a lot). The transition from Yuli (-0.3) to Abreu (4.2) alone makes up the vast majority of that. Hunter Brown gave you 0.9 WAR in only 20 innings last season. Now, he's not going to keep up that pace or the 0.89 ERA for a whole year, but I think he could easily top 2.0 WAR next year if given the innings to do so. On top of that, Lance gave you 1.4 WAR in only 47 innings pitched last year—even if he's banged up, he should be a solid No. 3 starter and be able to double that. Even if we account for some regression with the pitching staff and potential injuries, I think the team has the potential to be as good if not better on paper than last year's. It's just hard to know how much some of these guys will regress and how other roster changes and the shift could impact things.
