KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

I believe the same thing the organization does that he is developing fine as a primary combo guard and he and Jalen are the two main scorers on the team supplemented by Jabari and Sengun.

I also think the narrative out there is completely wrong, and people are just piling on...and are missing out on a developing talent.

And, I am glad the Org agrees with me.

Go Rockets!!!!

DD

 

He will be great to back-up JGreen at 2 or Tari Eason at 3. He might get 6th man of the year award.

 

I think you're both right in a way. It is a guard's league and the players listed; Luka, Giannas, Tatum, Jokic, KD, LeBron, etc all play like guards. They pass, playmake and can shoot....they just happen to be big!

Big guards and forwards have always won in the playoffs, that's what made me so angry with Morey. He always, always drafted or picked up small guards and small forwards but the minute that he went to Philly, he went with size.

 

That's fine.

Just trying to defend myself from your comment of "notice how these
KPj fans lump Jalen Green in there to shield KPj"

The dual guard attack is where is at imo. If you look at AAU or in the highschool
ranks you will see a sharing of the basketball at a higher level than the past.

Centers are handling the ball more and allowed to shoot more threes at
the base level of our middle schools and high schools. The wave will keep
coming and college will keep churning then out.

I've said, the NBA is morphing or trending right before our eyes.

Frank from a certain podcast made a comment yesterday that the Celtics
didn't have enough True PG and that's why they didn't get by the Warriors.
I've argued that it was because their main facilitating All Stars in Jaylen
Brown and Tatum got tired.

Warriors used
Curry (6 assist like KPj amount)
Poole (3 assists like Jalen Green amount)
Wiggins (6'8" facilitator, ball handler, CnS 3 former #1 pick)
[ throw in Klay Thompson here and there ]

Dray (not a good 3 PT shooter but benefits from Curry/Poole initiation of set...
can let him moving to the rack with the ball or he will dunk/layup....7 assists)

Looney (rim protector, screener, shot blocker to go with Wiggins/Dray)

Same model similar to Boston, that I want.

I'm suppose to say we don't have enough Point Guard when Boston gets to the NBA
finals with Marcus Smart and Derrick White? Really? Really?

It's not like everyone gets to the Finals!! If we don't win the finals but get
to the finals with KPj/Green I'll be happy. I'm fine with a Tyus Jones on
our bench....but I'm not breaking the bank for a $15 million back up or
lesser making more than KPj who is our starter. Defensive liability
on switch everything.

Warriors and Silas offense are suppose to be read and react offenses....
I can't say Boston is that as well. If you watch the 19/20 Mavs, you can
see Dwight Powell, Boban, WCS, Kleber, Porzingis setting screens everywhere.
Movement coming off of that action.

Vs the 76ers I saw a glimpse of that. Kenyon has been our main slasher all season.
Green drove and hit KPj cutting from the corner for a slam. If we get Green, KPj,
Jabari slashing to go with Kenyon.....look out.

If everyone knows how to read and react correctly.....the true PG is
needed less. What is the PG going to do? Yell out, I'm now going right
so you go left? As if the defense is going to not hear that?

These kids are growing up now taking on more information to digest and
delegated more responsibility than 10 years ago and beyond. Mr Frank
from the podcast may be treating these kids like past. Where only
one guy like Rondo gets all the assists and is in charge of play
calling.....when you run read and react it's like an amoeba like
movement. Players moving to the soft spots or open areas.

The future of the Rockets offense is more than likely not just 5-man out.
Silas ran very little post ups in 2019 with the Mavs.....but we expect him
to alter that for Sengun. But Silas won't be changing from 5-man out?

 

You seem to be having trouble understanding simple points i make for 2 days.

1) There's no 1 right way leading to the success in basketball. If that was the case we all would be watching exact same basketball from every team in the NBA. It's not science, it's basketball.
2) I'm not saying dual guard attack or combo guard or whatever you want to call approach is wrong, i am just saying you can't achieve it with kevin porter junior.
3) "Read&React" is literally the trademark of bad coaching.
4) Kevin Porter Junior might be the worst option in the whole league to execute Read&React play since he can't read anything.

 

He might be having trouble understanding your "points" because you aren't making any "points." You don't provide any actual analysis or stats to backup your words. You are just literally saying things, such as "KPJ can't read anything." Go away, "joined Friday."

 

Because i don't need ****ing stats to realize he sucks at it. But if you have no idea about basketball and need stats so desperately, here's one. He is leading the entire ****ing league in TURNOVERS.

 

So did Harden when we were so good all those years....BFD.

Look at all the players with similar turnover numbers....

KPJ leads the league in 3.9 Turnovers per game.

Lillard 3.8
Morant 3.8
Giannis 3.7
Luka 3.7

I mean that is some good company right there and shows that guys that have the ball a lot tend to have higher turnovers, but it doesn't impede them winning.


DD

 

You're right, anyone who averages a lot of TOs must be awful.

 

Leading the league in turnovers in itself is not a HUGE problem IF the production/efficiency of that production that comes along with it far exceeds the negative. We saw this with Harden. Lebron has the most turnovers in NBA history and a look at other top turnover guys all time and you will see some of the best players ever. But yeah when the production level is at KPJs current level it’s not good.

 

Do you really want to go down that road? Comparing KPJ with Lillard, Morant, Giannis, Luka and Embiid?

 

No. I'm not comparing KPJ to them. The point is that, despite his flaws, KPJ is 22 yrs old and averaing 19/6/6. Here are the guys who average over 19 points along with over or near 6 boards and 6 assists:

• Dejounte Murray
• Nikola Jokic
• Lebron James
• Ja Morant
• Kevin Durant
• Stephen Curry
• Giannis
• Luka

The only ones near KPJ's age are Ja and Luka. You can spew rhetoric like "he can't read anything," but the facts speak for themselves.

 

And he's by far the least efficient amongst them. 19 points with %41 fg, and 5.8 assists with 4 turnovers are horrible numbers.

But thanks for proving my point.

 

What is your point? That KPJ isn’t a star? Who’s arguing that he is? But guys like you who harp only on the negatives and spew nonsense like “KPJ can’t read anything” add nothing of value.

By the way, why are all of you the same? No avatar. Short, sputtering, hyperbolic statements. The same few stats thrown out time and time again. It’s uncanny.

 

You asked me to provide stats and i did. Now you are b****ing about it. lmfao.

 

As I said, you all post the same way. Definitely raises some eyebrows.

 

Who is doing that because I certainly have not seen anybody proclaiming him to be a great player, but what I do see is plenty of people saying he will be in the Chinese league in 2 years or that he will be out of the NBA in a couple of years.

It's very telling that you missed all of those post, or don't feel you need to comment on the outlandish stuff that is being said in the negative.

Can you name these posters who are claiming he is the great big Greek god?

maybe I missed them.

 

So trying to change the subject when you're proven wrong? Cool stuff.

 

How miserable must you be to even think that and then post it.

WOW!

 

It really is uncanny. This is exactly a post that King1 would post almost verbatim.

By the way, what, pray tell, do you believe I was "wrong" about?