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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

    34 vote(s)
    57.6%
  2. Twitter

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  1. Space Ghost

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    I encourage you to read these two pieces about Jack Dorseys BlueSky. The first is a Medium article. The second is a long twitter thread by Jack Dorsey.
    I speculate Dorsey left twitter the second time because Twitter's board did not want the competition and did not like the idea of open sourcing everything (ie: not being able to censor 'misinformation').

    I do believe we are heading towards a decentralized era where users store their data in a universal protocol format and are able to move their data from any host or even host the data in their own private location (Think Hillary and her email server in her bathroom for context).

    I also believe the value will be in the algorithms to source and parse this data, not the actual data storage (which is expensive and a liability).

    The grand question is whether Musk intends to incorporate this (he has indicated he will and he shares a circle of friends, including Dorsey, who supports this). But Elon is gonna Elon regardless. Nobody really knows including his most loyal followers or his very easily triggered critics.



     
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  2. Sajan

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    https://www.engadget.com/neuralink-federal-investigation-animal-testing-071953787.html?


    Musk has reportedly been telling employees since the company was launched in 2016 to imagine that they had a bomb strapped to their heads in an effort to make them move faster.
    Upon reviewing internal testing documentation, Reuters said it found four experiments involving 86 pigs and two monkeys with results that were rendered questionable by human errors. Neuralink
    Earlier this year, the animal rights group Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine accused the company botching surgeries that killed monkeys.

    A couple of examples Reuters found in the documents detailed how Neuralink staff implanted the company's brain-machine interface device on the wrong vertebra of two different pigs — something that could've been easily prevented by counting the animals' vertebrae — forcing the team to kill them to end their suffering.



    Neuralink recently held an event announcing that it could start human trials within the next six months.


    I volunteer @tinman and @Space Ghost
     
  3. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

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    Two thumbs up for being an ass hole. WTG!
     
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  4. JuanValdez

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    Looks pretty interesting. But reading is hard! :(
     
  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Blockchain.
     
  6. Sajan

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    You don't want to volunteer for trials where employees are performing surgeries pretending a bomb is strapped to them because their lunatic boss is impatient?
    I am shocked.
     
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  7. Amiga

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    I think Mastodon is exactly that model.
     
  8. geeimsobored

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    Mastodon has serious UX issues that will ultimately limit its future. No one is making an open source protocol that can replicate Twitter without Twitter being the ones to create the protocol. The benefit of creating open source protocols is to benefit from third parties validating and improving a product. But Twitter has to create and release the product first rather than consuming what someone else is building.

    The most analogous example is Android and Chromium which are both open source but both are mostly managed by Google (although now that Edge is built on Chromium, Microsoft is pretty active on that one as well). But in both cases, Google is still central to projects. If you want a viable protocol for Twitter, they basically would have to release their own source code and have third parties improve it.

    The idea that Twitter would consume BlueSky is completely backwards. Aside from the crazy amount of work it would take to rewrite Twitter around a new protocol, its just completely unnecessary.
     
  9. Amiga

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    For the model that @JuanValdez talks about, I think it applies. Mastodon is an open-source software built on an open protocol (ActivityPub).

    That's too bad about the UX (I haven't tried it - by it, I mean any of the "client" or "node" or "instances").
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    But it doesn't work because it is insane to rebuild twitter around a third party protocol. Unless you have Zuckerberg Metaverse money sitting around, this just isn't a real option. It is simply too expensive and time consuming to rewrite an entire social media platform.

    The only way you get a proper open source protocol is if Twitter itself creates the protocol and releases its code base. Until then, this is all fantasy land conjecture that won't go anywhere.
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks Metaverse is bullshit the world doesn't need, and basically a second coming of SecondLife which was hyped for a while and then everyone forgot about it?
     
  12. Space Ghost

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    Explain the economics around open source software. Who is paying for the insane amounts of computing power for every query? Who is paying for the engineers?

    The spirit of open source is that if you use and improve, you contribute your improvements to the community.
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Mass adoption isn't coming through over sized goggles at 4k resolution. The tech isn't there for the metaverse. Ready Player One is a fantasy.
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    Block chain works on most things flawlessly if you can prune those Merkle Trees. Just ask SBF.
     
  15. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    At the rate we're going more of the population will be too poor to buy houses much less luxury items. They'll turn to the metaverse for fulfillment and clout. Cant afford the $840 Air Jordan 48 but you can buy a $120 personalized NFT version to wear in VR. GOOD LUCK
     
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  16. AroundTheWorld

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    It just seems more like a weird nerd's fantasy than something the majority of people will want or need. People are worried about their real lives, having food to eat, being able to pay their rent, etc. - they will want to use the internet to transact in various ways, but for many/most things, a less immersive experience is better. I do see a use case for it, but to me, it seems very niche. (Best use case probably pr0n, that helped VHS beat Betamax, too...) @Jontro
     
  17. jiggyfly

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    Somebody is going to need some strong mouthwash after all that gargling.
     
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  18. tinman

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    We don’t need neurolink because we’re already cyborg level intelligence

    we are 99ers
    @Sajan
     
  19. Amiga

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    Not sure I understand your points. Can you state it differently?
     
  20. Xopher

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    Looks like they let Herschel Walker escape.
     

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