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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah....I can't say I share your highly optimistic view of what Tate is.

    He's a 6'4 power forward who can't shoot and shouldn't handle the ball. He views himself as a Draymond Green type but he's more of a smaller PJ Tucker type with less defense who can't shoot.

    One of the good things about this season IMO has been Tate sitting out.
     
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  2. ApacheWarrior

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    Hopefully KPj gets contacts like Steve Nash did.

    Improving court vision just doesn't happen naturally....so I'm told.

    Everyone on the team needs to improve so that Sengun can progress....I wish the Sengun only fans would tell Sengun to progress his 3-pt shooting. That progresses everyone else on the team. But they won't.
     
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  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    We have at best a 14% shot at Wemby which means 86% against.....we aren't getting Wemby.

    Tanking for Wemby is akin to betting it all in Vegas.

    DD
     
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    :D
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    the lack of a 3 point shot really is the biggest reason why Sengun fits so poorly with the starters in a lot of matchups. He commands no respect as a shooter and that harms spacing.
     
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  6. AlperenSengun

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    Love the positivity :). Wish i were on the same train.

    Among the points listed I would fully agree with 2. 1 is not correct this season, 3 is good for him but in terms of actual play, I don't know how it is meaningful. So it is not really like the curry situation, the way i see it. On top of all of these, quitting playing is such a big negative that I cannot get my head over it. And as you said, this is what effects all my judgement. Because i cannot trust him at all.

    If he plays more off ball and improves, I won't be surprised. If he plays the same role he is playing now, I will be very surprised if he actually improves.
     
  7. Joe Rocket

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    I love how youre assuming Im not calm, you use that tactic with everyone you disagree with?
     
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  8. Joe Rocket

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    Guarantee the Porter and SIlas blame Sengun for that.
     
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  9. ApacheWarrior

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    My feeling exactly. If you watch Magic, Clippers (Zubac), Nuggets (Jokic) highlights vs the Rockets you find them camped out in the paint free lancing.

    I defy two players to go to any park, gym, court and practice PnR vs 3 players. As long as the heights are comparable. No 7 footers vs 5'11" guys.

    Amazing the Rockets stats are as good as it is when you consider that and the competition and how many road games we have played.

    This offense would be doing just fine with Myles Turner. KPj won't have to change a darn thing playing next to Wembayama. That catch radius
    and ability to gather the ball in an elevator will be just fine.
     
  10. hakeem94

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    this is very good and I approve! I LOVE IT IN FACT
    however you can basically take any nba player and claim almost all of this for him

    and it still doesnt mean he should be the lead guard ...its should be alperen sengun who is light years ahead of him in that department,and hes even younger than him (LOL), is projected to become an MVP and an NBA legend....

    players like KPJ are dime a dozen in nba...and alperen sengun is ONLY ONE..once in a decade, perhaps even one in half a century type of player....
     
  11. Mathloom

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    No, just people who are not calm.

    I know you'd like to shift the discussion to my identity or hint at your basketball knowledge but I'm not interested in that. Good luck!
     
  12. maypk

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    So you think KPJ is a horrible point guard because Sengun can't make 3 pointers? LMFAO

    Kevin Porter JR is a point guard who refuses to make a simple entry pass when Jabari or Sengun got a mismatch on low post. That's more than enough of a proof that he's not a point guard and he will never be one. Of course it's enough of a proof if you have any idea about how basketball should be played.
     
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  13. ApacheWarrior

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    Sengun trails too far behind in the PnR....and why? He ghost screens every PnR

    Bruno makes contact more often and creates windows to hit him with a pass.

    With Bruno or Wembayama KPj or Green or any PG can fake the pass to a trailing roll Man and then lob knowing that the Roll Man can get to it.

    With Sengun....you can only deliver a pass to him 10 out as he crosses the FT line. Sengun is not going up to secure a lob pass.

    Somehow that's a better FG attempt vs a packed paint than Green or KPj contested FG in the paint.
     
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    Thank you. That was enough information provided for me to judge your basketball knowledge. Have a nice day.
     
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  15. ApacheWarrior

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    You're welcome.

    Also nobody can run PnR as Roll Man with Sengun out there above the break because nobody fears his 3-pt shot.

    Kenyon and Tate were rated high as a Roll Man
    last season in the 80's NBA percentile.....this year Kenyon was around 23 NBA percentile last time I looked. And Tate hasn't played.

    So I repeat....Sengun mucks up things when he doesn't have the ball. I know your answer will be, "give the ball to Sengun every play"

    No thanks

    It doesn't surprise me that Bruno is in the 90's in NBA percentile as a Roll Man in PnR....we don't play Sengun and Bruno at the same time
     
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    That first part is patently false.
    No need to lie
     
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  17. jiggyfly

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    Ok point made but how do you factor in he was playing with 2 all NBA players and maybe 2 Hof's? while KPJ is playing with guys who we don't even know are rotational guys on a good NBA team?
     
  18. jiggyfly

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    What all are the Rockets betting?

    Certainly not being a good team?

    And its just not Tanking for Wembly you got scoot as well as some other great prospects in the top 5.
     
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    Honestly, do you switch channels when Jalen and Sengun plays pnr?
     
  20. ApacheWarrior

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    Jalen Green also struggles in PnR when Sengun is in there.

    Im at work right now but I believe KPj is in the 40's as ball handler in PnR while Green is in the 20's.
    I can confirm later today.

    Not an accident that the Rockets came back vs the Suns and Warriors as Sengun sat down and KPj and Green had more room to pin their ears back and attack downhill moving towards the rim.

    You Sengun fans are going to come to terms with the smoke being around the burning man Sengun.... eventually
     

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