Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Don't some iOS App direct you with a weblink to sign up for additional services to avoid apple's cut? Part of the conversion rate is a trust of 3rd party payment. Twitter can probably get away with this more than other less-known (trusted) apps.

 

back to your lives, citizens

 

I have a good idea what happened here. Some account manager at Apple re-iterated their rules for submitting a new release. These people have incredible power. They can just stop a new release for days or longer. Elon misunderstood and interpreted it as "Apple is threatening to remove Twitter from their app store". But that's their power, and even the power of some individual account managers. Obviously, because of the publicity and Musk's stature, at some point it gets escalated at Apple. But if you just have an app with, say 5 million or 10 million downloads...not so easy.

 

He doesn’t care. Think of a guy who’s spent $44 billion. He could’ve built a mile-long yacht for $44 billion but it’s like not good for the planet. He’s not interested,” added Hastings.

Lol can you set the standard of human behavior any lower than not building a mile long yacht cause "it's like not good" ?

These guys, lol, they must thank Zeus and Ahura Mazda every day that he is there - i mean for Zuckerberg to now only own the second and third most toxic social networks and to have all of his own myriad **** ups get buried on page 43 - the guy is truly blessed.

 

I would just about guarantee this has happened before, but with Elon's lack of knowledge about how it works he overreacted.

 

that's funny

 

Not exactly a ban after a poll, but .... worse. Free Speech in action!


https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/
Left-Wing Voices Are Silenced on Twitter as Far-Right Trolls Advise Elon Musk

Elon Musk appears to have outsourced decisions about who to ban from Twitter to the platform’s right-wing extremists.

Elon Musk claims to be “fighting for free speech in America” but the social network’s new owner appears to be overseeing a purge of left-wing activists from the platform.

Several prominent antifascist organizers and journalists have had their accounts suspended in the past week, after right-wing operatives appealed directly to Musk to ban them and far-right internet trolls flooded Twitter’s complaints system with false reports about terms of service violations.

As the Los Angeles City Councilmember Mike Bonin noted on Twitter, the suspended users include Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose open-source investigation of the U.S. Capitol riot led to the identification and arrest of a masked Proud Boy who attacked police officers. The account of video journalist Vishal Pratap Singh, who reports on far-right protests in Southern California, has also been suspended.

Among the other prominent accounts suspended were the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, an antifascist group that provides armed security for LGBTQ+ events in North Texas, and CrimethInc, an anarchist collective that has published and distributed anarchist and anti-authoritarian zines, books, posters, and podcasts since the mid-1990s.

All four accounts had been singled out for criticism by Andy Ngo, a far-right writer whose conspiratorial, error-riddled reporting on left-wing protests and social movements fuels the mass delusion that a handful of small antifascist groups are part of an imaginary shadow army called “antifa.” In a public exchange on Twitter on Friday, Musk invited Ngo to report “Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him.

“Andy Ngo’s bizarre vision of ‘antifa’ seems to be the metric used to delete the accounts of journalists and publications, most of which engaged in verifiably good journalism and done so completely above board and TOS observant ways,” Shane Burley, editor of the anthology “¡No Pasarán!: Antifascist Dispatches From a World in Crisis,” observed on Twitter. “Paranoid delusions about antifa are driving it.”

As The Intercept reported last year, Ngo had previously tried and failed to have Loder suspended from Twitter, and also joined a botched attempt to have a court order the researcher to stop tweeting about one of the Proud Boys who took part in the Capitol riot.

In a phone interview on Monday, Loder, a tech company founder and cybersecurity expert, told The Intercept that their @chadloder account was initially suspended last week for about 90 minutes after Musk had replied to Ngo on Twitter. After briefly regaining access to the account, Loder was suspended again and accused by Twitter of having used another account to evade the ban.

Loder said that they do have access to another dormant account, @masksfordocs — which was set up in early 2020 as part of an effort by a group of activists to donate N95 masks to doctors during the first months of the Covid-19 pandemic — but had not used it for ban evasion. (Ngo had drawn attention to the @masksfordocs account on Twitter, describing it as Loder’s “alt.”)

“What I believe happened is that I and other accounts have been mass reported for the last few weeks by a dedicated group of far-right extremists who want to erase archived evidence of their past misdeeds and to neutralize our ability to expose them in the future,” Loder said. “What I suspect happened is that Twitter’s automatic systems flagged my account for some reason and no human being is reviewing these.”

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“The irony isn’t lost on us that our suspension coincides with a coordinated effort to reinstate the most vile antisemitic, transphobic hate accounts,” the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club said in a statement to The Intercept. “Whether this is an indication of the future of leadership of Elon Musk’s running of Twitter, we cannot say but we can say that the timing and reasoning is deliberate and targeted.”

 

Kara Swisher's interview with Yael Roth (the former head of moderation and safety at Twitter) is worth listening to. He's quite measured and fair in his analysis of what has happened. He's pretty fair to Elon Musk (in my opinion) but he addresses the more recent failures of Twitter thus far (like reducing content moderation, selling blue checks, etc..). Apparently because he quit instead of getting laid off, he's one of the few senior officials who does not have an NDA so he's able to speak pretty freely.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...f-left-elon-musk/id1643307527?i=1000588297388

 

That's an excellent interview and gives you a good peek into the Twitter world (around Musk's style, content modulation, and even personal safety) before and after Musk.

 

They probably dialed it down because it's a no-win situation for either party and rehashed what their red-lines are with the app (don't circumvent the sub/payment model: be deliberate like Netflix...don't censure Twitter without ample and uniformly fair notice)

Isn't that what billionaires do...build big yachts and compare sizes. After a few hundred million, what more can you do to feel better than your peers?

Give to the poor?

 

So much for free speech @Os Trigonum

Protect hate speech and far right misinformation, but get rid of honest left wing journalism. Makes total sense.

 

It's sad that Musk is chit chatting with far-right trolls. For a while now, I assumed it was just a performance on his part. But now I'm wondering if he has fallen deep into the sphere of right-wing conspiracy (re-tweeting the Pelosi male prostitute conspiracy).

Whatever the case, this could be what's going on -- see quote below from the article. Twitter needs actual humans to detect, overturn, and addresses automated system vulnerability to trolls' manipulation. It could simply be a case of there being no one left to do that job adequately. Wouldn't be a surprise given the supernova layoff. The effect is however the same - this ain't no "free speech" haven. Lol.

“What I suspect happened is that Twitter’s automatic systems flagged my account for some reason and no human being is reviewing these.”

 

music to advertiser’s ears…I’m sure they can’t wait to resume a relationship with Twitter

 

obviously lefties trying to sabotage Musk

 

I would be curious to know where they would get such stats from? How do we know they are not entirely made up?