The Athletic: Bruno Fernando Will Start Over Sengun When He Returns

But it has not happened till now, and we know it is too naive to hope that it is going to happen with silas. It is a big loss for KPJ and the rockets but it is what it is.

 

Is this stat going to change anyone's mind about the fact that Garuba's last 17 games is better than any 17 game stretch in Bruno's entire 4 year career?

You're not even debating the same thing as I am. You're here to tell me how underdeveloped a scorer Garuba is (small picture). We're here to discuss the FUTURE offense and defense of Bruno vs Garuba vs Sengun (big picture).

 

No because a guy averaging 4.4 points and 5.4 rebounds over 17 games isn't the type of thing that is that impressive for me to look up "17 game samples" - a totally normal thing that everybody does all the time.

I mean, Fernando averaged, 6.9 ppg last year so, looks like he's 55% better at scoring than the epic 17 game stretch - playing these small # games is fun and dumb!

honestly just watch any (or actually all, there's not that many ) of Bruno's highlights with the Rockets and it's obvious that he offers soemthing different than the other big men, which is why he was resigned this year.

I know you're "baffled"by it, but that's on you.

 

oops? and since when playmaking isnt an offensive skillset?

or you implying kanters postup game or 3 pt shoting/off rebounding/foul drawing/whatever other offensive skills was miles better than senguns(LOL) so that it can offset huge advantage playmaking gives to sengun?

rookie sengun would kick ass of prime kanter playing 1 vs 1

 

I don't know, but I just think it's a stupid decision no matter which angle you look at it. Defensive, offensive, spacing, passing, doesn't matter.

How many more points is Bruno going to score than Garuba? His career high for a season is 6.9ppg. Garuba's is 4.4ppg already and a way better passer. Plus HE'S 20 FFS. Garuba is going to improve rapidly, Bruno is not so even from a potentiality perspective, it's still a stupid decision.

It's some old man sh*t cause you can see the old guys on the board loving this decision.

Oh yeah sure. Bruno is going to average only 2 more points than Garuba and worse defense, but let's ignore that and base our thinking on highlights. Nice plan.

Bruno has had 4 years and he hasn't been able to put together a small sample of 17 good games. Yet, you're still arguing for this outlandish rationale.

 

To me it's sengun garuba and Bruno in the big man pecking order.

We literally have no reason To play Bruno starter mins since he isn't even considered in our rebuilding plans.

 

What I am saying is that Kanter had a very developed offensive game and was better on the post than Alpi, you are the one acting like Kanter was somehow inferior to Alpi offensivley.

I never said playmaking is not an offensive skill, way to start with the strawmaning.

If you don't think Kanter would give Sengun the business as well tells me you don't have a clue.

 

Yeah, that's why Black is out of the league. I guess my gripe is that since this is going to be the last season where winning is not desired, they should try something that has more upside instead of doing all these stopgap things that don't add anything to the future. Same goes with starting Tate and Gordon.

 

Outlandish is the doofus who thinks that a 17 game stretch of a guy averaging 4 ppg is the defining metric above all metrics that must be matched in kind or else.

Obviously the Rockets see a lot more in Bruno Fernando than you do (and given that their sample size is approximately 100 or 1000x larger than yours or mine this should not be surprising)

I don't think it's that hard at the end of last season and the few minutes this season for a casual fan like me or you to see either (he put up 17-10 and 16-11 in 20 minute off the bench stints last year - something that would send you into convulsions of joy if Usman Garuba ever approached such Olympian heights).

He's a different kind of center that allows the Rockets to play differently. Fortunately there's plenty of minutes on the roster for him to play.

 

He's not out of the league he went on to beast in the Agricultural leagues in Greece

 

Politics aside, my discomfort about that online discussion was that it was right after Sengun's career night, 52 night. Not about the clown you compare him to. I don't care about that part. I enjoy watching Sengun play, starter or bench player does not matter for me. I have never seen a player trade discussion right after such a performance, yet I respect both of your opinions. I am too old to be a fan of something, but i watch Sengun's games like what he's gonna do next. He plays a strange yet entertaining offense. That is what many people love about him. Bringing in race, ethnicity, etc. are from haters or losers, I just ignore them.

 

You're making sh*t up again Sam. No one ever said Garuba is a good offensive player, just that he's on a hot streak from 3pt land. No one is here to discuss definitive metrics.

Nothing you have said is a convincing argument that Bruno should start over Sengun and Garuba. All you're saying is that Bruno can jump and catch a lob and that's a tiny minuscule piece of evidence, even smaller than the sample size we're discussing.

Anyways, you've made your point. We all know if Garuba was going to pan out, you would be absolutely the last person to see it so what is anyone really going to learn here from you?

 

Let's try it your way then.

Garuba has had lots of 2 game stretches in his career

Has Usman Garuba ever put together a 2 game stretch like Bruno Fernando did against Sacramento on consecutive games in 2021, when he had combined 29-17-4 in 40 minutes off the bench including 5 lob dunks, at the tender age of 23!

If the answer is no, it's baffling to me. Baffling!

 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01.html

Kanter had 19-11 in 2014-15 on nearly 57% FG....the guy was no slouch, his advanced stats are really good.

People forget how good he was or just don't want to admit it.....

He was the number 3 pick in the NBA draft in 2011 because he was good. I would love him on the Rockets but I think the political situation with Turkey would be a problem for Sengun so for that reason no.

DD

 

So clever!

 

he went to WCF with blazers...had klay injury kicked in a series earlier might have been to finals or even become a champion

still rookie alpi easily and heavily beats prime enes kanter one on one...

 

Yeah and he can also be that lob threat when Bruno is on the court. Lob "threat" meaning the more threats you have the better.

 

Bruno is such a lob threat i frequently look up in my daily life expecting to see a 6-10 Angolan man hanging over me

 

just can't get away from the politics, right?

Why would it be a problem for sengun (and also not for Kanter if it is a problem)? Do americans with different political views start fighting? Just stop the political non-sense and projecting things onto people.

And you complained about Sengun's defense for ever, and you will love Kanter on the rockets. endless trolling.