They would also be alive if Kenosha PD had done their job and sent him home instead of just waving him through. Or if his Mom didn't decide it was a good idea to drive your 17 year old son to riot. Kyle Rittenhouse is a dumb kid but there were several adults who shoulld've known better.
Oh, thanks for clarifying that. I don't know why anyone I have on ignore thinks responding sarcastically to my posts can get my attention. LMAO They shouldn't waste their time. I have no desire to unignore the ones I have on ignore, just to see what crap they are spewing. It doesn't interest me.
No one wants everyone to think exactly the same. We just appreciate good faith discussions which the right really avoids with memes and trolling. It's a pattern I've noticed for over a decade now from being in both right wing and leftist bubbles. One side wants more sincere discussions while the other side will do things like say they are an attack helicopter to "own the libs" I understand what you are doing here. You are trying to prove a point that the only way people will respect you here is if you regurgitate our beliefs. I don't think you are as coy as you believe.
The only time groomer is appropriate is when referring to church or priests, you know where there are actually thousands of documented cases.
Grooming takes on many forms. Yes, there are many cases in churches, where a pedophile gains the trust of a child or teen in hopes of taking advantage of them sexually. Grooming has been happening in churches for centuries. Pedophiles and groomers come in all colors, races, and walks of life, and grooming is how they gain trust. Epstein and Maxwell were groomers. Coaches, family members, can be groomers. Drug traffickers and sex traffickers often groom people in dire straights to gain their trust. People with power and money, looking for a way to gain trust before abusing their victim are groomers. To just use the term groomers towards an entire community like the LGBTQ the way MTG and other bigots do is is just their way to stir up hate and bigotry towards the LGBTQ community, nothing more. It's not true, and it's not something anyone paid by the people of this country in government offices should be doing. There are groomers in their own party. That's the disturbing part of their madness in calling the LGBTQ community and the people accepting them groomers.
Why were all the other people allowed to be there, but suddenly it is a problem if Rittenhouse is there? Seems like a bit of a double standard. Neither Huber nor Rosenbaum would have died if they didn't go there either. Also, if Joseph Rosenbaum hadn't attacked him for putting out a fire, no one would have died. Only one would have died if Anthony Huber didn't attack him with a skateboard and try to take his rifle. Gauge Grosskreutz would still have full use of his arm if he had not pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse. It is almost like every single person Rittenhouse shot was attacking him. Why on earth would the blame be placed not on the violent people that attacked a 17-year-old who was offering medical assistance and putting out fires, but instead on the kid that was attacked?
Did anyone say they should have been there either? I want to ask you a question. Do you think a 15 year old should look up to someone like Rittenhouse?
That’s why Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t found guilty that doesn’t mean it was good idea for him to be there. As someone who did go out and protect my neighborhood and provide first aid. I didn’t go to another city that I knew little about and I didn’t do it open carrying a firearm. Even if accepting that Kyle Rittenhouse had good motives it was still stupid of him to be there but even more so that Kenosha PD and his mother encouraged him to be there.
No, but the implication is that he was the party primarily responsible. I would put that on the criminals that attacked him. Other than his breaking curfew (which really didn't seem like it was being enforced anyway, I don't see that he did anything wrong. He wouldn't be my first choice, but I would be fine with it. If a 15-year-old decided to be a Police Explorer, Fire Cadet, Lifeguard, and volunteered to clean up graffiti after riots, defend other people's property, and be an advocate for Constitutional rights, I would say those are all great things to do. It was the city where half of his family lives, not some place he knew little about. It sure seems like carrying a firearm turned out to be a good idea. Why was it stupid of him to be there, but not stupid of you to protect your neighborhood and provide first aid? Because no one happened to attack you?
well apparently the type of kids who are into that are kids you drop out of highschool, have their peers call them "the next school shooter" and hammer fists girls in the back of the head in school parking lots. And that is probably the blind spot you have for this stuff. The avenue in which Rittenhouse got to where he was infatuated with law and order came from a fascist mindset being brainwashed by right wing media online. Hence his addiction to MAGA politics and lashing out with threats to any of his classmates when something like Trump came up. Did he join these things because he sincerely had empathy for his community or he liked the allure and appearance of "law and order" and the allure of LARPing in high speed low drag kit and look like a bad ass? Do you think his interest in law enforcement came from sincere empathy for his community or his love of walking around with a assault rifle with a three point sling because it is something he thinks looks cool? You think that type of insular anti-social behavior is healthy for a 15 year old? If his motive to get interest in these hobbies stem from empathy to serve his community he would have shown it in other aspects of life but the dude was known by his peers as a insular anti-social person who was aggressive towards anyone who disagreed with him on politics. Again, do you think it's healthy for a 15 year old to look up to Rittenhouse?
intent and motives is probably the biggest differentiating feature here. The fact that @rocketsjudoka didn't show up like he was going to to a raid in Afghanistan with a plate carriers and an AR tells me he didn't offer help from a standpoint of wanting to larp and feel bad ass but rather just sincerely wanted to help. Rittenhouse's background, his age and lack of maturity tells me his motives were more in line with the appearance of being bad ass and LARPing.
After several days protecting my neighborhood along with experience in other riots back in Berkeley including where I had been assaulted by looters I’ve never had to kill anyone. Because he had no training and no experience. Because even if he had family there he didn’t know the city that well and wasn’t working with anyone. Even in my own experience I didn’t go to other parts of Minneapolis but worked with my neighbors in my own neighborhood. Let me ask you this do you think it’s a good idea to send kids into a potentially dangerous situation with no training or guidance? Would you be fine with a 17 year old with a shovel being sent to a wild land fire? Would it be a good idea for the park rangers there just to wave the kid in through?
In fact when I was doing first aid I made a point to appear as non threatening as possible. I wore a high visibility vest with a Red Cross shown prominently along with a helmet with a Red Cross. I also made it clear I was there to help anyone who needed it and even let LEO know that if they needed aid I was prepared to do so. At CAL I was with the student news paper and during some protest that turned into riots I was assaulted trying to photograph people breaking into a Gap store. I also just missed getting clubbed by CHP. I didn’t go out armed with anything more than a camera as it would’ve defeats the point of being a journalist to show up open carrying.
Also note Grosskreutz wasn’t a criminal Rittenhouse was pointing a gun at him so he has as much right to point his firearm at Rittenhouse.
I'm glad the two fights I got in during school where no one got hurt didn't get blown totally out of proportion by people trying to attack my character. I wonder if the kids that say he was weird and seemed like a future school shooter were the same ones that bullied him so he dropped out and did school online and his mother sought a criminal protective order against. Kyle Rittenhouse became a Police Explorer because of fascism? Was his interest in being a lifeguard and being a firefighter also fascism based? What about volunteering to clean graffiti? Fascism? Probably empathy, given his interest in being a firefighter, a lifeguard, providing first aid, etc. He did show it in other aspects of his life. Again, fire cadet, lifeguard, cleaning graffiti are all displays of "empathy for his community" or I might put it as a sense of civic duty. He still wouldn't be my first choice, but yes, I think that's okay.[/quote]
Yes it's fascism based when the dude gets aggressive at classmates for voicing a negative opinion of Trump and classmates literally say that his goal for a long period was to "trigger the libs". You are very naive to think that a child like that is going about these things out of empathy rather than just doing these things because of the aesthetic of being a bad ass. And you can definitely make an argument that his anti-social behavior turned into a positive feedback cascading loop where his classmates did bully him for his anti-social extreme political speak especially at his age. But that doesn't help your argument that he LARPs out of empathy. It makes a stronger case that he LARPed out of a desire to stand out amongst his peers that he is some Ricky recon bad ass backing up his rhetoric about trigger the libs. I don't know how hopelessly naive someone like you has to be to not see how much of Rittenhouse doing what he did was him justifying his existence possibly from bulling due to anti-social behavior. That background should show you how his actions aren't based in empathy but based in a damaged young mind who wants to prove things to his peers.
