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Who’s your 1B choice?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by whiskeyred, Nov 14, 2022.

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Who’s your 1B choice?

  1. Anthony Rizzo

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    19.1%
  2. Josh Bell

    15 vote(s)
    8.4%
  3. Yuli Gurriel

    35 vote(s)
    19.7%
  4. Jose Abreu

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    48.3%
  5. Other

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    4.5%
  1. Buck Turgidson

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    You can probably carry Brantley *or* Yuli on the roster, I don't see how it's possible to have both. And Brantley may not sign until Spring Training (or later), so you can't exactly plan on that.
     
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    Honestly if everything I said goes, we’ve got 48 mil tied up in JV and Walker, then we still have about 17 mil. Could go conforto if they don’t trust brantley, although he’s got similar worries. I like taking a flier on him, could be great add. Contreras has been mentioned too.. but getting 1B taken care of under 10 mil would open up so many possibilities. We just can’t do it unless we spend on JV.
     
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    It was 12 games (for Yuli) over 3.5 weeks. It’s baseball anything can happen. It’s highly likely it is nothing but small sample size nonsense. His true talent level is below replacement player and he’s going to cost 5-8M, and if he’s on the team it’s highly likely that he will get way too many AB’s. also, roster spots are incredibly precious as you only have 3, spending one on a shitty hitting 1B/DH that provides no real versatility is silly.
     
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    Somebody didn't get his balls signed by Yuli
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    He's not wrong, though.

    I never got my pecs signed by Carmen Electra, but that doesn't mean I don't know when it's time for her to retire.
     
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    I like what Yuli has done for the Astros. He’s been a subpar (on balance) playoff performer in the totality of his career (measured as a 1B) for the Astros (711 career post season OPS) that provided some really big moments that were integral to us winning some really important games. He’s also been absurdly bad in a couple playoff series that we lost that were he better (again- judged as a middle of the lineup 1B) maybe we’d have won. All in all very happy to have him on the team. Wish him all the luck in the world, if we bring him back it’s bullshit sentimentality and not hard nosed practicality.
     
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    Brown, McCullers, Valdez, Urquidy, Javier, Garcia

    Maton, Martinez, Abreu, Pressly, Montero, Neris, Stanek

    C Contreras, Maldanado
    1B Abreu
    2B Altuve
    3B Bregman
    SS Peña
    LF Alvarez
    CF Chas
    RF Tucker
    DH Brantley, Contreras
    BN Yuli
    BN Dubon
    BN Hensley
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Where is JV's $40M?
     
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    Gone
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    Where? Why? Who?
     
  11. Jeremy Williams

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    Payroll is already trending up. Adding Abreu, Contreras, Brantley and Yuli would likely push payroll above Crane’s ability to add JV, especially if JV was contracted for 3 years.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Then subtract Brantley and Yuli, and go again.
     
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  13. Jeremy Williams

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    1 year of Yuli (5–6M) and Brantley (8-10M) comes no where near Verlander over 2-3 years for 80-120M.
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Crane will spend what Crane will spend, and apparently Crane will spend more than he did last season. He's the man now, in charge of JV negotiations. I just hope he spends it wisely on good/better players and not sentimental ones.
     
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    And just as with Mancini, Abreu would be on the bench or out of position in 2023 instead of in the line-up at 1B. Getting Players which improve the club is only half the battle. And would ANYONE show me an objective metric which indicates Gurriel is even an average player defensively at 1B now to offset the dWAR of -1.1 which indicates he isn't?
     
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    Jose Abreu would be on the bench?
     
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    Spending has its limits. I have no problem if Crane wants to go nuts and go into the 300s for a couple years, but it’s very unlikely.
     
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    Mancini was or out of position.
     
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    2022 Manicini xwOBA .327
    2022 Jose Abreu xwOBA .373
    2022 Yuli xwOBA .271

    Abreu was an elite player in 2022. He would not have been on the Astros bench. Mancini should have started a lot more games for the Astros, but both struggled mightily down the stretch and Dusty went with his guy. If Abreu and Yuli are on this roster in 2023, Abreu owns 1B.
     
  20. Marshall Bryant

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    I used to think that too. Then Yuli, Maldonado and Dubon cured me of such sanity as Mancini and Vasquez had to fight for playing time.
     
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