New Zealand covid death = 0.002M total (0.4K per M) US covid death = 1.1M total (3.2K per M) Evil and Dangerous
Those are not rights. That is like the right not to be offended. If someone actually damages you, you can seek redress against them, but if I drive fast and don't hit you, your rights are not infringed upon. How about a no-fun zone box, where people can opt into rules, taxes, zoning, etc. You are already allowed to use water upstream. Those are riparian rights. What you can do is come to an agreement with that upstream farmer, or buy land upstream of him, or dig wells or irrigation canals. I certainly don't want to have a society where you tell me what crops I am allowed to grow. And yes, people are allowed to compost. Most likely they will control the smell themselves anyway. This already happens.
They’re not rights to you, but who says your perceptions of rights is greater then the next man’s? That’s what just about everybody has elected to live in around the entire world, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the Wild West with the option to employ an army of lawyers hasn’t been a natural outcome anywhere in the world. Turns out if people don’t want a high percentage of kids ran over by schools, people would rather have rules to prevent people from driving fast around the schools, instead of just having really good litigation damages after the kids are dead. But let’s not distract that from the fact that you probably don’t believe in public or mandatory schooling periods in the first place lol
And without a government who is to enforce those riparian rigths? Also what if the farmer doesn't want to negotiate with you. Wars have been started over access to water. You can't compost human waste without a lot of regulation in this country. I've actually researched this. That doesn't mean that there are places that still use unprocessed or minimally processed human waste for fertilizer. [Spoiler Alert] It doesn't smell good.
Did you happen to buy a timeshare at a beachfront NZ property? Theil and Co putting whisper campaigns to tear her down image make a ton more sense than Jacinda becoming emperor for life. Op-Ed: Want to escape America's Armageddon? Don't come to New Zealand As captured onscreen, New Zealand exists as a coveted, isolated elsewhere in the American imagination. That extends to the country’s political image as a woman-led liberal bastion. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is known for giving birth while in office, containing the spread of COVID-19 and passing gun control laws. But when “New Zealand” trends in the U.S., it’s rarely because of New Zealand at all. Instead, it’s usually because something has happened in the States that feels apocalyptic, and then Americans panic and Google how to move to New Zealand. Some noticeable peaks in “New Zealand” as a search term include November 2016, when Donald Trump won the presidential election, and then last month, with the overturn of Roe vs. Wade. When Americans look up New Zealand residency applications, it’s not because they want to live in Christchurch. It’s because they want to move elsewhere. Anywhere. As far away from where they do live as possible. It might not be such a bad thing if everyone repelled by the recriminalization of abortion were to migrate Down Under, if it weren’t for all of the billionaires who are already here. You see, if American liberals idealize New Zealand as a remote island of 5 million environmentally ethical social progressives that they could fit into, then the American superrich see it as a remote island of environmentally ethical social progressives that they could take over. Billionaires have been buying luxury bunkers here for years in order to invest in what they perceive to be their best possible chance at surviving Armageddon. PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel raised eyebrows in New Zealand in 2017 when news of his under-the-radar residency became public, and in recent months, he has faced resistance from local government planners over his proposal to build a five-star guest lodge in the South Island. Meanwhile, he’s backing right-wing U.S. congressional candidates who align with President Trump and advocate for stricter U.S. border laws, despite his bending of New Zealand residency restrictions to suit himself. Not that Thiel seems eager to claim being Kiwi, so why pay the high price for our passport? On the one hand, the country’s geographic isolation makes for a promising haven in the event of war or disease. On the other, the sea level is rising, New Zealand is sinking and we’re so quake-prone that the whole place shakes like an aging chihuahua. We’ve got high road fatalities, barely any military presence and one of the biggest threats to our national well-being is a possum infestation. Why is it, then, that the rich have their money on us to survive the apocalypse? They don’t, is the answer. They don’t anticipate New Zealand as it stands, nor its people, surviving the end of the world, but that’s part of the charm. For them, we’re an easy conquest if the rest of the world goes to hell. Known for having more sheep than people and, until recently, having a publicly funded wizard, New Zealand’s publicity team works harder than Kris Jenner to position the country as unintimidating and placid — Australia’s harmless sidekick. We cash in, every year, on being named one of the happiest countries in the world and one of the least corrupt countries in the world. New Zealand also touts its racial diversity and support of Maori, including in government representation. In reality, we’re more than 70% white and our youth suicide rate is high. As for corruption, New Zealand has no taxes on capital gains or inheritances, and it doesn’t tax existing wealth either. Public scrutiny of company property ownership is minimal, and there is little to no public registration of trusts. And, as Thiel made so clear, if you’re wealthy enough, you can buy your way across the border. I wonder whether the superrich would consider New Zealand to be the best locale for their doomsday bunker if it really were, in fact, one of the least corrupt countries in the world and they had to spend 1,350 days here to obtain a right to citizenship, like other newcomers. Don’t get me wrong. There’s no nuclear power, abortions are legal, guns are highly regulated in New Zealand and you’re never more than 80 miles from the sea. It’s beautiful, but it isn’t Disneyland and it isn’t your elsewhere. The country you’re imagining, the one you’ve been sold, it doesn’t exist. We’re as sad, racist and corrupt as the rest of the world, and, nowadays, there are a bunch more billionaires to boot.
Just a reminder that Ardern has governed in a way that has largely reflected the will of the people she represents (Surprisingly not Florida man), New Zealand is routinely ranked as one of the most democratic and least corrupted nations (always higher then the US), the actions of the Adern lead government in response to COVID were massively successful, tons of lives were saved in an effort that was unmatchable by any other developed nation. Oh, and that her physical appearance doesn’t matter.. because her profession is governance, and not a p*rn star. If you do like jerking off to politicians for whatever reason, I’m sure Desantis will continue to suffice.
And you are completely ignorant about the system in place that gives you options about what goods and services you purchase. Or the ability to post on an online forum… Or not having to guard your property from marauders and bandits…. Folks like you just want their cake and eat it.
Lol…. Making fun of someone’s appearance because you are butt hurt over Covid… QAnon is a hell of a drug.
New Zealand is great. Ardern is not. New Zealand being great is not her achievement, it is great despite her. She is equally unattractive as Marjorie Taylor Greene, they are both idiots and extremists, one from the right, the other one from the left.
Your edgelord shtick is dying dude. Something about you is off. No one is so naturally addicted to people like DeSabtis and happen to move to Florida and then for a decade before happen to live in a country that gives you "insight" on a popular right wing topic(Muslim migrants). You might just be a dude who's lived in your mom's spare room this entire decade in some suburb of Houston.
Might makes right under anarchy. Systems run under the rule of law are generally supported and even ran by the weak. Of course, when scale comes, then bureaucracy kicks in as a headwind, but that's inherent in any large org. Corporations that last beyond 50 years, let alone 100, are extremely rare. Our exaltation of these short-term single-focused entities ignore the long term societal impacts for placing dogmatic faith in them over long standing governments focused upon living over wealth accumulation. Pretty much throwing the baby out of the bath water when success and inevitable scaling constraints kicks in.
Look at any society that has violent regime change or has a government toppled. There is a reason why people use the term "chaos is a ladder" What did Iraq replace the Baath party with? ISIS.
If only Costco swept in and made everyone a member. Samples alone would've solved the Sunni Shia divide.
One of the friends of mine going to New Zealand has said specifically he wants to go to consider moving there because he thinks the US is going to Hell.
Are you suggesting that the government is what allows me to chose where to shop and post online? That without the government there would be no ClutchFans or Twitter or Reddit? That without the government there would be no Amazon or WalMart or Food4Less? That without the government, there would be roving bands of marauders? My city of 300,000 has about 400 police officers (split into three or four shifts). If they all went on strike, I am sure there would be a spike in crime, but the city wouldn't devolve into Somalia. As I said previously, I am not an anarchist. I work for the government, why would I want it to cease to exist completely. It should just be far more limited in scope and focused on protecting people and their rights, not enforcing rules that are unrelated to that duty. As I have said, I am not an anarchist. Government should exist for the exact purpose of protecting people's rights. That is up to him. If growing cotton is more valuable to him than whatever you are offering, you are not offering enough. Wars have been started over lots of things. The same disagreements generally don't lead to war. Okay, so why would you expect your next door neighbor will suddenly want to compost his own waste? My neighbors might do a lot of things that I don't like, but that is too bad for me. Such is freedom.
I am saying the federal government is the one that setup the infrastructure and rules that allows for commerce to innovate, grow, and expand. What makes the US so powerful (among other things), are the interstate commerce rules. I certainly want a more effective government but what you suggest seems more of a feudal like system whether you realize it or not. If the federal government fell, how will your town still provide electricity? Does your town have it's own power plant or does it share one with the surrounding towns and counties? You feel like folks wouldn't fight over the basic necessities like power, water, and food? That your police force of 400 will remain solidified and look out for the greater good? So yes, your city will probably devolve into chaos depending how swiftly the federal dissolves.
Exactly and that is the point that I and others are making for you. Protecting people's rights take money and resources that is why taxes exist. Now yes I can agree that the government might take too much money and resources and at many times does a poor job but that doesn't overturn the philosophical argument that government should exist and part of that is protecting the commons. To maintain that you will have to pay taxes. So then you're fine with him denying you access to a common asset water just because he wants to make as much money as he can. IN the meantime you're growing dust and weeds. They've started many conflicts. In fact the Israeli Palestinian conflict isn't just about religion or ethnicity but about water rights as Israel has limited Palestinian rights to the Jordan River basin. There are simmering conflicts here in the US over access to water in the West particulary in the CO river basin. Some of the most ancient wars in the Mesopotamia were fought over access to water. Without regulation regarding things like odor, health and air quality whats to stop them? You should have rights to be able to use your property also. You should have rights to live healthy. Under your view if your neighbor decides to pollute the air and doesn't give a crap about their neighbors what is your recourse? Also yes human waste composting is a thing about some of the more environmentally concerned. I had a professor who was a big proponent of it and also had a client who was interested in it. There are several composting toilet designs.
You can protect people's rights with little or no taxes. All you need are the courts and local police. All of local government in my area is paid for by sales tax of less than 10% plus fines and fees. You could eliminate most of local government and sales taxes and be left with just the police supported by fines and fees, no taxes required. The same would apply at the state and federal level. That small portion of the government devoted to protecting people's rights doesn't require any taxation, let alone the levels of taxation in current use. That is used to pay for an overly powerful military, overly intrusive intelligence agencies, and above all entitlement programs. Since you haven't started a revolution, you appear to be fine with it as well. Yes, as I have said, there are many causes of war. People sometimes fight over resources, sometimes fight over ideologies, sometimes fight over religion, sometimes fight over treaties. Almost always it is governments going to war though. How many wars have you seen fought between two property owners over water? Personal interest? Decency? Contracts? Any number of things. Do you think there is a huge pile of human crap everywhere it is not outlawed? Great. The most common form of human waste composting involves covering the waste every time it is deposited because people don't want to smell their own feces. I don't know why you think without an overbearing government there will be human waste everywhere. It seems very unlikely.
