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Put Jalen Green in the MIDDLE of the floor... as PG or otherwise

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JayZ750, Nov 1, 2021.

  1. Shark44

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    Funny, I've been thinking how well Green has been doing playing the two-man game with Sengun, and wondering could he do more? I really don't want JG moving to PG, but I do like the way his game is evolving and seeing him take advantage of situations by sharing the ball more.
     
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    He doesn't need to be a full time pg. That isn't his game. But what this team needs to do is make the Jalen Sengun pnr the base package the entire offense is based on and their "comfort play" they fall back to when the offense is struggling.

    Right now the "comfort play" is the KPJ dribble.
     
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  3. Francis3422

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    Yep.... Sengun/Green two man game amd PnR. KPJ, KMJ, Smith, Gordon provide spacing. Smith will hit 36% sooner or later. Granted it may be next year.
     
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  4. SamFisher

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    There should be a game where they just run green Sengun pr every single time they're on the floor just for experiment sake.

    Rockets don't do enough experimenting. What's the harm? There were a few meaningless games back in the harden - morey era where i wanted them to shoot all 3s. No 2s just 3s. Why not try it at least for a period and see what happens? Hell why not try it tomorrow?

    Talking head People on TV will scoff but if that's the worst that can happen who cares
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    KPJ is probably better suited as that microwave oven off the bench when Green or Sengun are on the bench. But he also can be the floor spacer when they both are playing.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    Here is exactly what will happen if you move Green to PG.

    1. KPJ's scoring efficiency will go way up and his turnovers down with him not having to run the offense.
    2. Green's scoring efficiency will go down and his turnovers way up with the added pressure of primary ball handler

    Right now the Rockets have prioritized GREEN's Dev over everyone else - and are keeping it SIMPLE to allow him to find his way, he just has to get the ball and attack.

    If you add the PG responsibility onto him - it will slow this down.

    Green and KPJ are similar players - and this is a throwaway season, might as well let KPJ try to sort it out.....there is no hurry.....

    DD
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    This isn't about bringing the ball up. It's about having a set offense structured around Green and Sengun two man game. Green doesn't have to be point for that.

    Kobe didn't have to be point in a two man game with him and Shaq.

    The recent development of Green's tighter handles makes me a little bit more confident he can be a primary ball handling guard by the time he's like 22-23 though. It's a rapid development that shows an an ability to work hard and improve. He was no where near this secure and confident in pnr ball handling last season. Dude is using screens amazingly in creative ways with his ball handling. I'm really surprised by the improvement.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Smith may hit 36 3's sooner or later.

    Granted it may be next year.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    See this is NOT KPJ this is SILAS....KPJ is doing exactly what Silas wants him to do......people's anger is misplaced.

    DD
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    I agree with you. I place no anger towards KPJ with my anger with the coaching staff. But I'm afraid what might happen if the staff now tells him to lessen his role a bit.
     
  11. JayZ750

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    I 100% agree with the experimentation concept.

    the worst that can happen is they still suck.

    I want to see KMJ in the starting lineup a few games. I want to see Tari in the starting lineup a few games. I want to see Bari cutting every possession for a game. I want to see Alpi in the high post. I want to see them hard switch every PnR for a few games.

    you can’t get worse than the worst for 2.5 straight years.
     
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    If there’s ever a time for the team to experiment stuff, it’s this year. Only question is, is Silas and the coaching staff willing to do it? I seriously doubt it.
     
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    This is baseless.

    Green has had at least 6 assists in each of his last 3 games, whilst shooting 55/42/92 on TS 68%. Jalen Green had a TS% of at least 62% in every one of these 3 games.

    Kevin Porter Jr in his entire career has never had a 3 game stretch where he had at least 6 assists and shot efficiently in each of those games.

    And to say Green's development is prioritized is laughable, it's clearly KPJ right now who the organization has given the offense to. You think if Green's development was prioritized, he would be taking 3 shots in the 4th quarter in repeated games despite being clearly the best offensive option on the floor?
     
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    People were telling me Green doesn't have handles and other stuff when I suggested it. I saw nothing in KPJ last year or this year.
     
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    They are not similar players at all.

    KPJ has low basketball IQ that can’t improve by time.
     
  16. PeterKingX

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    Lol

    Silas is idiot coach, but I don’t think Silas tells KPJ to play stupid basketball. KPJ’ s selfishness and low basketball IQ is taught by nobody.
     
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    This * 100.

    To add to what you said, KPJ’s turnovers and low efficiency isn’t the only issue. His tunnel vision, over dribbling going nowhere, and inability to orchestrate the offense are things that irritate me more. And his best FT% season average is only 73%. For a guard that’s inexcusable.

    As you pointed out, firstly, Green’s efficiency may or may not dip if he plays at PG. DD as always states it as a fact. Knowing DD’s history, we all know the opposite may happen.

    Secondly, even if his numbers do take a hit, I could care less if the offense flows better and his teammates get more opportunities to flourish.

    By playing him at PG, Green can expand his game more. Then even after we get a potent PG to run the team in the future (hopefully very near future), Green can still fulfill the secondary playmaker duties, or simply initiate the offense on his own during crunch time.

    He may also fail at PG position. But without giving it a try, nobody can say for sure one way or another. If there’s ever a time to experiment stuff, it’s this year.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. Don't waste your time talking to the village idiot.
     
  20. Believe It!

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    You were right all along.

    :cool:
     

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